Advice on Reporting 4wd Idiots

Submitted: Tuesday, Jul 27, 2004 at 09:57
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Hi All,

Last weekend, I went on a 4wd Club Trip to Morton National Park with 5 other vehicles.

We came across a pair of idiots in 2 hilux utes who where having difficulty getting up a hill.

In there numerous attempts at trying to get up the hill, and failing, they were being so eratic that the following was happening:

1. Tools were flying out the back of the ute as it was bouncing around everywhere.
2. Dirt was flying everywhere and they were just gougueing holes in the track.
3. We were sure the ute was going to rollover as he was bouncinig all over the place.

When the driver stopped and got out of the car, with alcohol in hand, and looked like he had 2 too many, we decided to get out of there.

I have the rego details of this idiot, and wondering who I can report him to, as he gives all 4wd'ers a bad name

Thanks

TonyG
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Reply By: Utemad - Tuesday, Jul 27, 2004 at 10:09

Tuesday, Jul 27, 2004 at 10:09
Reminds me of the time I came across a Nissan Patrol that had gone straight ahead through a 90 degree corner on the road back to the ferry at Double Island at about 8pm. When it was still dirt.

The male driver and male passenger were almost incapable of walking. A Landrover was trying to winch him back onto the road but couldn't as it had dropped off a small ledge. We just called for a flat bed truck and left him there.

I heard the truck driver the next day on the UHF talking to his other towie mates and telling them that this guy wanted him to change all four of his tyres (he had his beach tyres on and all four road tyres were in the back of the wagon. His FR wheel was peeled off the rim as it hit a large tree in the accident). But he told him that it was going on the truck or he was calling the Police.

I should have reported it myself.

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Follow Up By: GO_OFFROAD - Tuesday, Jul 27, 2004 at 13:10

Tuesday, Jul 27, 2004 at 13:10
Knowing there is 2 sides to every story, I am alarmed at the amount of innuendo, especially in the first post here, where most of the discription, is only thier personal opinion.

Last time I checked "bouncing all over the place" was not an offence, and if they made a mistake, and picked up the unsecured items, as Im sure most have done at some time with someing, then, at least they realised the mistake.

And although a can in hand isnt a good look, wether high on adrenalin, from not getting up the hill, or wether he had in fact drunk to much, I wouldnt think we should go labelling people "idiots" or accusing them of driving under the influence, when we dont actually know.

Do we even know if he opened the can as he got out of the car?, if so, this wouldnt be that bad I would imagine...

Not supporting bad behaviour, in commiting an offence, or telling a story.....;-)
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Follow Up By: Member - TonyG (NSW) - Tuesday, Jul 27, 2004 at 16:25

Tuesday, Jul 27, 2004 at 16:25
Hi Go_Offroad,

In this case the facts speak for themselves.

We saw them take 20 minutes trying to get up this hill, stuff flying everywhere. All he ended up doing was chewing the sh*t out of the track, chewed up his tyres, and used 1/4 tank petrol. At times he was so out of control under full revs, and the car bouncing alot, it looked like he would roll the vehicle. And the drop was about 60 metres

If he had any brains, he would have stopped & done some road building.

And when a person gets out of there vehicle looking drunk, acting drunk, and has a drink in his hand, well I call him an idiot.

TonyG
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Follow Up By: Member - Sand Man (SA) - Tuesday, Jul 27, 2004 at 17:56

Tuesday, Jul 27, 2004 at 17:56
Hey Offroad,

Was it you???

Don't try to justify this sort of behaviour. They are just wankers, buggering up the bush.
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Follow Up By: GO_OFFROAD - Tuesday, Jul 27, 2004 at 18:45

Tuesday, Jul 27, 2004 at 18:45
Im not supporting the behaviour, just like I hope your not supporting dramatising stories with innuendo........
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Follow Up By: GO_OFFROAD - Tuesday, Jul 27, 2004 at 18:49

Tuesday, Jul 27, 2004 at 18:49
So you think you can convince me with more innuendo?

Or did you count the clock, check his fuel gauge before and after, and we are to accept your version of "out of control?"

Last time I checked, [obviously you could assess from your position his grey matter] it wasnt an offence to have no brains either, was it?

If you wish to be taken seriously, try not "guessing' so much, unless you can say "in my opinion, I feel they were" rather than be so judgemental perhaps?
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Follow Up By: Member - Sand Man (SA) - Tuesday, Jul 27, 2004 at 18:59

Tuesday, Jul 27, 2004 at 18:59
Offroad,

Lighten up Laddie!!!

I have no need to doubt the observations from a fellow Member.

By chance, are you related to the William who used to frequent this forum? Some of your logic appears similar.
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Follow Up By: GO_OFFROAD - Tuesday, Jul 27, 2004 at 19:24

Tuesday, Jul 27, 2004 at 19:24
You guys must be a riot around the campfire, taking everything you agree with so seriously, and everything you dont in comparison to things you feel on a lower scale.........;-)

I must revert to smaller bait when the above names appear in future .....8-)
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, Jul 27, 2004 at 10:29

Tuesday, Jul 27, 2004 at 10:29
Is there a rangers station up there? Its a National Park isnt it? Contact them.
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Reply By: Brian B (QLD) - Tuesday, Jul 27, 2004 at 11:15

Tuesday, Jul 27, 2004 at 11:15
Hi Tony,

I think you would have two options. Police or the National Park Rangers.

Police would be more for the unsafe practices in the vehicle itself and the possiblity of drink driving wheras the rangers would be more able to deal with damage to the tracks etc.

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Follow Up By: Rob W. - Tuesday, Jul 27, 2004 at 11:25

Tuesday, Jul 27, 2004 at 11:25
I would report them to both the police and NPWS. Hopefully one of them will take action.
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Reply By: Member - Michael- Tuesday, Jul 27, 2004 at 11:43

Tuesday, Jul 27, 2004 at 11:43
Hi Tony
I'd contact NPWS seeing as it was in a National Park, its hard enough getting and keeping 4wd acess without w**##@s like these stuffing it up for everyone. You can bet that they would have been the first to scream if one of them got hurt because of his actions and nobody jumped in and helped.
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Reply By: Member - TonyG (NSW) - Tuesday, Jul 27, 2004 at 13:00

Tuesday, Jul 27, 2004 at 13:00
Hi All,

I will get in contact with the rangers in the area.

Thanks for the advice.

TonyG
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Follow Up By: Squid - Tuesday, Jul 27, 2004 at 13:04

Tuesday, Jul 27, 2004 at 13:04
Hi Tony,

Definitely worth reporting them as they have already started closing off some of the tracks in the Morton NP.

Out of interest wherabouts were you, and with which 4wd club? I am currently looking around for a suitable club to join.

Cheers
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Reply By: Member - Bradley- Tuesday, Jul 27, 2004 at 13:23

Tuesday, Jul 27, 2004 at 13:23
Not sure of qld, but check with local rangers station.

For all the VIC people - Bush telegraph - 132874

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Reply By: Magnus - Tuesday, Jul 27, 2004 at 14:43

Tuesday, Jul 27, 2004 at 14:43
Well,

It seems that Go-Offroad's balanced comments have been treated with ignore.

No response any-one?

Cheers

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Follow Up By: D-Jack - Tuesday, Jul 27, 2004 at 16:27

Tuesday, Jul 27, 2004 at 16:27
I wonder if Go-Offroad eventually got up the hill?
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Follow Up By: GO_OFFROAD - Tuesday, Jul 27, 2004 at 18:52

Tuesday, Jul 27, 2004 at 18:52
Well Ive been to Moreton national park, and we had no trouble anywhere, so wether we made it up the hill in particular, who knows, but I havent been there since last year, and I dont drive a hilux, but of course if you checked your facts,a nd didnt assume anything, you would of known that..................................
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Tuesday, Jul 27, 2004 at 21:05

Tuesday, Jul 27, 2004 at 21:05
go-offroad, what would have sealed it for me would have been the disrespect for the terrain, I guess its hard to say if they HAD to go up the hill, but gouging tracks and then getting out with a can in hand looking under the weather is really a bad reflection on all 4wd'ers.
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Follow Up By: GO_OFFROAD - Tuesday, Jul 27, 2004 at 21:15

Tuesday, Jul 27, 2004 at 21:15
I agree entirely with that statement Bonz, but out of all that has been said, how much of it is actually reportable to anyone, how much of it is fact, and how much has been assumed?

Like my first post, 2 sides to every story, and we got one opinion here in print ;-)
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Reply By: Rod W - Tuesday, Jul 27, 2004 at 15:49

Tuesday, Jul 27, 2004 at 15:49
Post em on this site so everyone knows who they are.
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