Troopy - > Eternity!!!

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Just a quick one. Why is Troopy so popular? I mean it is very old model. It has bullet proof engine but apart from that why is it so popular?
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Reply By: V8troopie - Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 01:49

Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 01:49
Its a very versatile vehicle but that original diesel engine is underpowered. The reason I got mine was that I could fit out the back to sleep in comfort and still carry all that gear for prolonged outback trips inside.
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Follow Up By: Member - Dragan T (VIC) - Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 01:52

Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 01:52
HZ underpowered? Taught about fitting a snail?
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Follow Up By: V8troopie - Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 02:01

Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 02:01
Dragan, mine's the HJ 75 model. That 2H motor had trouble overtaking a snail!!
6.2 litres of V8 diesel fixed that :-)
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Follow Up By: Member - Dragan T (VIC) - Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 02:06

Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 02:06
So you have about thae same power as B double now eh? : )
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Reply By: Member - John (Vic) - Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 02:00

Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 02:00
I guess your refering to the body shape when you say old model.

Why change something that works is the simple answer.

They have the biggest rear area, one of the highest internal load capacities also one of the highest tow capacities they generally lack all the tricky plastic toy $hit that the market demands these days or IFS.
They also have very good ground clearance.
Power to weight ratio is very very well matched especially in the turbo.
They go for ever with very little problem associated with any aspect of the build.
And if you do have a problem parts / service are avaliable just about anywhere you go in the country.

Birdsville Auto told me they could just about build a 75/78/79 series Toyota off the shelf with the spares they carried.
Disco or Nissan etc you had to wait till it came up from Adelaide.
This is because most of the outback Stations use Toyota's. (Is that Apostraphe thingy supposed to be there in Toyota's ?)

They are a great looking vehicle, very business like in my view.

They have proven themselves as a design for more years than most people can remember.

Go North young man and you will see more troopys than you will believe.
In Alice Springs recently my son and I played count the Troopy in one day alone 40% of the overall cars counted in a 3 hour period driving around Alice were Troopies. (Troopy Heaven)
Best Business in Alice would have to be the Toyota dealership.

They have some limitations Higher centre of gravity is the biggest issue for me.

They are not everyone's cup of tea but lovem or hatem they are a great truck and I for one would be hard pressed to find another vehicle that could do everything that this one will do.
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Follow Up By: Member - Dragan T (VIC) - Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 02:05

Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 02:05
I meanat model kept for that long time! High gravity centre, yeah, noticed in glembrook last weekend : ) glad that you pulled out safe!!! Hey shouldn't you be sleeping now? : ) I taught the same thing they must be damn reliable! I hate plastic on 4WDrives as well, usually it's failed attempt to replace metal to make things lite!
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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 02:07

Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 02:07
The other thing I reakon is they made so many steel dash components all those years ago that they don't dare change the model till they used them all up. LOL
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Follow Up By: Member - Dragan T (VIC) - Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 02:10

Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 02:10
Could be!!!Could be!!! : ) were they ever army wehicles if they are called "troop caries"
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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 02:18

Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 02:18
Toyota actually call them "Militars" short for Military obviously.

The original design is the 11 seat version 3 across the front and 2 rows of 4 down each side in the rear. designed for carrying a "Platoon" I think of Troops. (Someone will correct me on that I'm sure)
To fit 3 across the front you have to be the size of 5 year olds always a squeeze.
The 3, 5 and 6 seaters came later more for the recreational and other business/commercial use catagories.
I have the RV model which is sold as a more upmarket model than the others. It has CD player, carpet, front bucket seats a bit of crappy chrome on the front and a few other bits to make it more "Recreational" in its look.
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Follow Up By: MrBitchi - Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 08:10

Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 08:10
That would be a "Section". 3 x section = platoon.
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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 13:23

Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 13:23
See I knew someone out there would tell me how many troops in a platoon.
So its 11 for a section and 33 for a platoon ? Have I got that right ?
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Follow Up By: MrBitchi - Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 13:57

Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 13:57
Pretty close, John. Was a long time ago so am a bit rusty on the actual numbers and there are a couple of platoon overheads, ie a sergeant and a Lieutenant etc.
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Follow Up By: Harry - Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 21:59

Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 21:59
Hi John,
Have you posted the 2nd installment on the Ration Truck trip or am I a bit slow ? Are you going to tell the bit about the trip leader having his trailer axle completely rebuilt.
Oh, by the way I've fitted the Firestone airbags in place of the bumpstops and it's an unbelievable difference.
The truck rides at original levels now, because I control the height and ride comfort. Can't really bottom out anymore and that's a definite bonus.Haven't changed any suspension components apart from the Koni's.Had them on my 75 for 10yrs, took em down to koni who tested them, nothing wrong with these shocks mate.
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Reply By: Troopy Travellers (NSW) - Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 08:36

Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 08:36
I think the name "Troopy" has a catchy name. Also how many other 4WD's can carry a sheet of 1200x1800 sheet of plywood inside & still shut the door? Also, I like to carry a 2ft step ladder so I can get into the back door & look into the engine bay. Also most Troopy drivers wave to one another. If you want a 4WD that drives like a car then a troopy is not for you!

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Follow Up By: Members - Greg & Gail - Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 12:00

Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 12:00
You can carry a 3 meter lenth of steel home or lock a 9 foot surfboard in the back
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Reply By: Rod W - Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 09:12

Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 09:12
One of the greatest thinks since sliced bread.
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Follow Up By: Rod W - Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 09:15

Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 09:15
Stuffed that up didn't I, thinks should things, we’re illiterate as well.
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Reply By: waveslave - Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 09:43

Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 09:43
Well, what can I add to the above? They, are quite simpley, the best touring vehicle you can buy. I have 2 seats and a sh#tload of storage space. They are tough as nails, actually tougher, and as was said before, no dinky plastic crap, just solid BEAST! If I had carpeted floors, then my drivers sider carpet would be ruined. As it is, once a week I vacuum and wipe with a wet coth.There...good as new!!!

Plus, the chicks love em. ;)
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Follow Up By: Troopy Travellers (NSW) - Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 09:49

Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 09:49
This thread sounds like a troopy backslapping convention. But why not !!I wonder what other 4WD non troopy owners think ?
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Follow Up By: Member - Captain (WA) - Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 10:46

Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 10:46
I seriously considered a RV troopy when I was replacing my 80 series. They are as tough as nails, have a turbo diesel motor (no intercooler) WITH coil live axle (but leaf rears). It was a hard call but at the end of the day I unfortunately do too many road kays and it simply isn't as comfortable as the GU. But I reckon they are a fantastic 4WD and would love to have one as a second vehicle. If the Patrol does go IFS as suggested in earlier posts, just may end up getting a troopy next time around!

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Follow Up By: Gajm (VIC) - Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 12:04

Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 12:04
I would have loved to get a Troopy as well, but with a family of 5 it just wasn't practical, so grabbed the GQ instead. If I had the finances I'd definitely grab one as a second vehicle for when just me and my son go away with the swags, they are great 4wds
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Follow Up By: Baz (NSW) - Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 12:34

Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 12:34
I think they are a great vehicle and they have something in common with the Explorer, they get stuck on slippery clay hills, "don't they John"

heheheheheheh

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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 13:21

Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 13:21
Of course its a Troopy back slaping convention.
But you notice no real negative comments, even those who own other 4by's (Should there be an apostraphe thingy in 4by's) love em.

And Baz, I did not get Stuck ! otherwise I would still be there.
We procrastinated for a while about which way to get out and actually we turned the truck around twice 360 deg before deciding on the original way in as the best way out.
The unfortunate part was the 30 degeree side slope that it left me on with the 3 foot drop beside the rear left wheel which made me sweat. LOL.
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Follow Up By: waveslave - Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 14:32

Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 14:32
An awesome site for Cruiser lovers. There's even an video add for one of the first Landcruisers ever.

http://www.toyota.com/landcruiser/minisite/
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Reply By: Diesel Do - Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 12:42

Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 12:42
Troopies? Proper 4wd for real travelling. Oz is big, but wait - there's more!

They can go further than any other 4wd sold in Australia - proven by my mate's itineraries. Never would have thought it would end up in these places when we first saw it at the ex-govt auctions in Alice.

Still going.

http://overland.dreamers1.com/

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Follow Up By: Mad Dog (Victoria) - Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 15:36

Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 15:36
Wow what a trip! Great reading, thanks.
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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 17:54

Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 17:54
I agree with Ray, a bloody great read.
I take my hat off to them for just doing it, wish I had the guts to do what they did.
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Follow Up By: Diesel Do - Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 18:44

Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 18:44
Special people. He used to have a 80 series petrol cruiser. Added heaps of fuel tanks to it (about 350 ltrs from memory), and water, and just take off out into the bush. Spent weeks without ever seeing bitumen (or a house). Few loaves of bread, sack of rice - whatever.

Think that troopie will deserve to be in a hall of fame somewhere when it's travelling days are done. But not yet...

keep it simple. have fun - it's still out there.

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Reply By: waveslave - Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 14:24

Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 14:24
I was going to get the 75 series, leaf springs all round, and it prob. does make it a more capable four wheeler,(slightly) but after driving a few of them with H.D. suspension, well, what can I say, do you like headaches? The coils make for quite a smooth ride, with minimal loss in capability.

Plus, since I owned it, I haven't had a single speeding fine!!!
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Reply By: Member - glenno (QLD) - Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 14:44

Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 14:44
troopy = A large square box that you can fit all your stuff onto , into , bolt onto , put on top of , accessorize , cary upto 11 people , reliable , parts available anywhere , have i forgoten anything ?
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Reply By: Rod W - Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 15:37

Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 15:37
About August last year I tried to get a Troopy mob/club off the ground here in Perth but got more enquiries from non troopy owners so I decided to go with any 4x4 which resulted in Bush Camping being established which currently has a mailing list of 65.

But I still recon a just Troopy mob/club would be great.
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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 17:52

Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 17:52
Rod I am a members of the Toyota Landcruiser Club here in Melbourne, great club.
We have a annual cricket match Troopies V Others as we have so many Troopies in the club.
We also have a lot of Nissans and other brands as member as the club has so many good facilities and runs so many good trips.

My advice take them all and enjoy the mix, its all good fun.
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Reply By: Banjo - Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 16:12

Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 16:12
Two things.....
1. What's the best way to optimise the comfort levels for an around Oz trip in a Troopy ? Seats ? Anything else ?
2. Interested in how the back can be configured to store the necessary goodies for bush camping AND get in and out when make selections etc ? (seeing that its still a 2 door)...IE....don't want to remove gear to get gear....

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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 17:57

Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 17:57
Front seats yes. I have the standard Toyota RV bucket seats and they still give me a sore back.

In the rear a Drawer system is the best.
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Follow Up By: Harry - Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 21:16

Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 21:16
Banjo, read my reply to John vic, where I mention Firestone Airbag replacement of bump stops.
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Follow Up By: waveslave - Friday, Jul 30, 2004 at 08:05

Friday, Jul 30, 2004 at 08:05
Recaro suspensions seats are the way to go! They came with the Truck as it is an ex-ambo. and they are a joy. And like John said a rear drawer system. I'm planning a trip for all of 2005 where we plan to see all 7 states, and I have spent WAY to much fiting out my Troopy. But It's worth it. We will be so comfy.
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Follow Up By: Harry - Friday, Jul 30, 2004 at 20:08

Friday, Jul 30, 2004 at 20:08
Banjo,
Talk to me and I'll send a photo of the back of my Troopy, you might like it or you might not, and it's not a draw system, but everything is accessible, and secured in place, like if you stop all of a sudden you won't wear your fry-pan around your ears.
I also sleep in mine if it's peaing down with rain or cats and dogs.
The side roof shelfs are a bonus for hats,raincoats, jumpers,sleeping mats,etc, you know the stuff that floats around and is a bluddy nuisance.
The draw system's are ok, but they are pretty weighty too, and cost too much.
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Reply By: Peter 2 - Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 19:20

Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 19:20
I've had troopies since 1981, can't kill em. Fit good aftermarket seats, Scheels or Recaro's or similar, extra leaf all round, decent shocks, air locker in the rear and they will go just about anywhere.
the weak points in the drive train are the small front diff and the transfer case, I've rebuilt two around the 130k mark, both private use on long outback trips with a decent load.
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Follow Up By: Harry - Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 21:13

Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 21:13
John Vic,
Have you done the 2nd installment for the readers on the Ration Truck yet or am I too slow and have missed it.
Don't forget the bit about the trip leader had his complete axle on trailer rebuilt by the crew, snigger , snigger. I wonder what would ave happened if certain people were't there.
TROOPY owners, I have fitted Firestone airbags where my bumpstops were, bluddy unbelievable difference.
Always rides at original levels and doesn't bottom out.
You control the ride height and comfort.
I have not changed any suspension components except for the Koni's,
they have never failed me.
Have a great "Aussee" day
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Follow Up By: Muddy Girl - Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 21:25

Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 21:25
Hi Harry,

No you have not missed it, he has not done it yet.

he was only saying last night he must get on to it.

Should be sooon

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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 21:48

Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 21:48
Hi Colin
Muddy's right I have not completed part 2 as yet.
I will try to finish it in the next couple of days.

Been a bit tied up with various things.

Catch ya soon.

And remember as Big Scotty always say's

TROOPIES RULE.
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Reply By: Member - Fay D Away (Vic) - Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 21:38

Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 21:38
Hi Dragan
How many other 4X4's can you hop in and stand up and boil a kettle on the stove then wash the cup in the kitchen sink then slowly (built for comfort not for speed. No turbo or electronics to go wrong) drive up the washed out track, then after sitting back relaxing on the couch watching a dvd or video of the days entertainment hop up into bed for a comfortable nights sleep in the middle of the bush or city

Ps Telescope about $75 from D**K SMITH for stargazing in the bush. will MM you

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Reply By: Moz - Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 21:51

Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 21:51
Space and more space.
Saddest day when I had to swap the 75 for a 60 when the baby came along.
It took me and the missus all over the country.
Pull up anywhere and that was your bed for the night.
Throw up an annex for a bit comfort when the weather was bad.
Stored everything under a false floor in the back with a swag rolled up on top.
Superb head room in the 75.
Brilliant touring range with the diesel's dual tanks.
Comfortable on the highway and tackled rough stuff well.

Ahh memories.

Cheers,
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Follow Up By: Harry - Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 22:05

Thursday, Jul 29, 2004 at 22:05
OK John, just thought I'd remind you.
Next time up at Yarck Hilton, take im for a wheel and see what you think,
about the airbags
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Reply By: Quartzy - Friday, Jul 30, 2004 at 00:05

Friday, Jul 30, 2004 at 00:05
Ahh the troopy. As i type, mine is driving away with its new owner! I have had my first troopy -a 1990 hzj75- for 3 years and it took me everywhere without a whinge. I bought it as a second vehicle for $4000 from a wrecker and did it up over the last 3 years. In the meantime as the primary car for my family i have had:
1. 2000 V6 Suzuki grand vitara
2. 1996 Defender 130 TDI dual cab
3. 1997 Nissan patrol GQ 1997 2.8td
and NOT ONE of them comes close to being as reliable and as good offroad as the TROOPY!
I am now saving up for a new 5 seater RV. I just wish they didnt charge what they do for the 75/78/79 series. Paying sportscar prices for a tractor!
But what a tractor!
Cheers All.
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