Having trouble setting up a basic trip in ExplorOz

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I've had 2 years of frustration trying to setup trips, and it beats me everytime. This time I'm trying to do a simple trip from Narooma Discovery Park to Brassknockers firetrail and return via Peak Alone and back to Narooma Discovery Park. I try and try, then do it in 3 minutes in Google maps. Why is it so hard in ExplorOz? I had to put in multiple Brassknoker points to try to connect Borkes rd and Brassknocker, but it won't connect? You can see in the zoom in that it doesn't want to connect. I setup a start and finish at Narooma Discovery Park and this is not even in the list? I've watched all the videos and read the help files. In Google maps I can just drag and connect to fix errors. Then I try to save the trip in exploroz and it doesn't appear in my list, yes I'm logged in. This is the Google Maps Trip - https://maps.app.goo.gl/CfRsKHN4eiDNNiJDA
I posted pics of the trip I tried to do?
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Reply By: Member - McLaren3030 - Thursday, Oct 23, 2025 at 08:44

Thursday, Oct 23, 2025 at 08:44
Hi Teched,

Not sure that I can help you with your issue, (perhaps you need to log a request on the help desk), however as an observation, I noticed that in the first image, you have two sections where you are in “flight” mode, rather than “driving” mode, is there a reason for this?

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Reply By: Member - Teched - Thursday, Oct 23, 2025 at 10:35

Thursday, Oct 23, 2025 at 10:35
Hi Macca, I was just playing with the settings to see if it helped to connect the gap.
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Reply By: Member - nick boab - Thursday, Oct 23, 2025 at 22:18

Thursday, Oct 23, 2025 at 22:18
Teched , are you referring to the straight line
in one of your pictures ??
Not sure I 100% understand your conundrum

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Reply By: Member - Teched - Friday, Oct 24, 2025 at 10:32

Friday, Oct 24, 2025 at 10:32
Hi Nick, no the red dash line is someone else's trip line. mine is the thick purple line and even though I put in 4 extra dropped pins the purple track won't connect as in the last pick above.
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Follow Up By: Member - nick boab - Friday, Oct 24, 2025 at 14:29

Friday, Oct 24, 2025 at 14:29
Teched, "doing some housework..."
It would be real handy if you replied to the replies by using the follow-up button and not creating another reply as the person posting the reply will not get a notification that you have replied.

P.S as well if you refer to it as it's rightful name "Traveller app" and not explorOz that also can be confusing for some .
Hope that might help


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Reply By: TrevorDavid - Friday, Oct 24, 2025 at 11:53

Friday, Oct 24, 2025 at 11:53
Hi Teched

Try setting your mode to cycling.


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Follow Up By: Member - nick boab - Friday, Oct 24, 2025 at 14:19

Friday, Oct 24, 2025 at 14:19
Or walking , you can then change the average speed to your liking .
Michelle has done a video on this subject in the tutorials .
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Follow Up By: Member - nick boab - Friday, Oct 24, 2025 at 14:50

Friday, Oct 24, 2025 at 14:50
Trevor David , am I right in presuming if there's no continuous track on the map then the Traveller can't make a connection between 2 points . if you understand what I mean ??
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Follow Up By: TrevorDavid - Friday, Oct 24, 2025 at 15:11

Friday, Oct 24, 2025 at 15:11
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From Combargo & return



Completed in cycling mode with some Flight mode (Straight ) sections.

Nick, yes flight mode required in that scenario . Also if it is a unnamed minor track flight mode may be required .

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Follow Up By: Member - nick boab - Friday, Oct 24, 2025 at 20:30

Friday, Oct 24, 2025 at 20:30
Tutorial tips and hacks creating route
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Follow Up By: Member - nick boab - Monday, Oct 27, 2025 at 10:50

Monday, Oct 27, 2025 at 10:50
There is a fair chance that some of these tracks are not available to the general public & also I have been reading some online forums about tracks in this area and some commentators suggest enter at your own peril .
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Reply By: ExplorOz - David & Michelle - Sunday, Oct 26, 2025 at 17:37

Sunday, Oct 26, 2025 at 17:37
Here’s some facts that may be useful to your understanding:

The routing engine uses an online data source that’s different from what you see on the EOTopo map. Routing is actually based on the same road data used to build the Streets & Paths map layer, so a handy trick is to switch your map source to Streets & Paths in this instance. If the road or track doesn’t appear there, the auto-router can’t use it — you’ll need to use a few straight-line segments instead. There’s no way around that, as those tracks simply aren’t in the online routing database.

Yes, you’ll find EOTopo shows far more minor tracks for visual reference than Streets & Paths because we include data not found in mainstream sources.

Auto routing is a computer-generated output based on external public data. It simply matches results that meet your selected criteria. Location of your selected Places is significant. The router has no knowledge of predicting future track conditions, nor your vehicles capacity to drive through obstacles it deems as not “drivable”. Driving indicates accessible for any vehicle.

It’s therefore not perfect for suggesting more exciting 4wd options if other drivable options exist. It also cannot give routing for sections where it doesn't have data.

Auto routing is designed mainly for cities, towns, and general commuting, with built-in safety limits to prevent drivers from being sent down unsuitable 4WD tracks. But thats where the EOTopo map and your map reading skills, and local/4wd knowledge and decision making comes in.

Since we know many 4WDrivers will use our app, we, allow the “cycling” mode to be used as an alternative option when “driving” is too conservative. Accepting routes built with “cycling” mode generally works fine if you are happy to accept there may be offroad hazards. But check that the supplied route is using roads designated on EOTopo for vehicles (ie red lines) - not the designated bike paths or shared walk/bike tracks of course which are indicated in other track colours. While we could label that “4WD” instead of “cycling,” we don’t alter the official source data to avoid misrepresentation.

Keep in mind that Auto routing tends to come unstuck when used beyond its mainstream purpose — such as within State Forestry areas. These networks are often excluded from public or commercial routing data due to access controls and liability issues. That’s why we’ve built tools into the app that let you manually adjust routes when needed, depending on the area but it comes with the need for more careful consideration and considerable effort.

In short: don’t worry too much about achieving a “perfect” auto-route. Use EOTopo as your guide, drop manual points where needed, and once you’re out there, follow the real tracks — they’ll tell the true story.
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Follow Up By: Briste - Monday, Oct 27, 2025 at 08:41

Monday, Oct 27, 2025 at 08:41
"Routing is actually based on the same road data used to build the Streets & Paths map layer, so a handy trick is to switch your map source to Streets & Paths in this instance."

This is the first time that I've read this advice. I just went and checked in the Treks and Navigation section of the help and I don't see it there.
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Follow Up By: Member - nick boab - Monday, Oct 27, 2025 at 11:06

Monday, Oct 27, 2025 at 11:06
Briste, This is the first time I have had any issues with Auto routing using the suggested model, so it is only applying to small amount of tracks or parts of tracks in certain locations. I.E like this one New South Wales state forest . If you have a look at the differences between the Map sources there's not a lot of difference at this location
But very handy to know.
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Follow Up By: Briste - Monday, Oct 27, 2025 at 12:21

Monday, Oct 27, 2025 at 12:21
It's certainly a problem I've encountered from time to time.
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