Light Force or Hella

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I am trying to decide weather I should go for a set of Light Force 240 XGT or Hella Rally 4000 driving lights.

Both are excellent lights both are available to me for similar prices both are Aus made.
I think that the Hellas will fit by bull bar better than the light Force, other than that I would appreciate the forum's opinions on why I should go for one over the other.
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Reply By: Leroy - Monday, Aug 09, 2004 at 21:03

Monday, Aug 09, 2004 at 21:03
same thread on Overlander as well.

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Oh and I think the LightForce toughter....lol
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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Monday, Aug 09, 2004 at 21:08

Monday, Aug 09, 2004 at 21:08
Leroy do you have a link to that thread ?
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Follow Up By: Leroy - Monday, Aug 09, 2004 at 23:43

Monday, Aug 09, 2004 at 23:43
http://forums.overlander.com.au/viewtopic.php?t=17849

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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Monday, Aug 09, 2004 at 21:23

Monday, Aug 09, 2004 at 21:23
Mate had the 4000's they fell apart on way to cape, but he found out someone had hacked at them.

Ive had my 240's ages now, bought 18 sets when I did the bulk buy, not one complaint about them...

Both are large, and you would be well advised to get one of each while at the shop, and sit them where you are going to mount them, and look at it for blocking the air flow.

For me, having had Rally 2000's (also a great light), and the 240's, with the awesome stories I've heard on warranty with 240s even yrs later (mate had a set drowned many times over yrs and reflector went dull, replaced at Lightforce's cost for freight and all), I'd go with 240s anyday..
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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Monday, Aug 09, 2004 at 21:32

Monday, Aug 09, 2004 at 21:32
Truckster the lights are coming from Uncle Eric when I make up my mind.
He has the 4000 on his truck and loves them.
Everybody has a positive story about the Light Force hence the dilemma.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Monday, Aug 09, 2004 at 21:37

Monday, Aug 09, 2004 at 21:37
Go lightforces without doubt...

Goto a 4wd store pretend you are buyin from them, and sit a set on your car to see how much air they block, then go from there
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Follow Up By: Leroy - Monday, Aug 09, 2004 at 23:45

Monday, Aug 09, 2004 at 23:45
Bout time someone organised another bulk buy? I'm sure there'd be a few takers.

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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Tuesday, Aug 10, 2004 at 18:10

Tuesday, Aug 10, 2004 at 18:10
Erics getting me some XGT's too John, bringing them to Robe.
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Reply By: Michelle from ExplorOz - Monday, Aug 09, 2004 at 21:48

Monday, Aug 09, 2004 at 21:48
Hi John,
Now I'm not the technical one (I'll leave that for David) but he chose the Hellas (not a contra deal so an honest value for money decision was made). Have you seen the article he wrote on the lights? See hough the page has been edited with brand-specific details removed since the original article, but maybe something useful there? They've been on the vehicle since 2000 and have since done the following trips without a single incident... Gunbarrel Hway (including Old Gunbarrel), Tanami Track, Bungles, Gibb River Rd, Kalumuburu Rd, all of East Pilbara, Anne Beadell Hwy, Simpson Desert double crossing, Mulga Park Rd through Pittinjara Lands, Great Central Rd, and Canning Stock Route so something must be right!
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Follow Up By: Michelle from ExplorOz - Monday, Aug 09, 2004 at 21:50

Monday, Aug 09, 2004 at 21:50
Did something wrong with the link code - here's the link to the driving lights article
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Reply By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Monday, Aug 09, 2004 at 23:25

Monday, Aug 09, 2004 at 23:25
G'day John,
I can't offer an opinion on the Hella's; sorry.
However, over the past 14 years I have used IPF, follwed by Cibie Super Oscars and finally my current 240 Blitz from Lightforce.
There was a good article in one of the mags recently and the lightforce XGT (same as the blitz, just a different casing/mounting) came out clear winners.
I know Truckster has strong views about magazine comparo's, but I have a fair amount of confidence in their assertion that they do the comparo first and then ring the manufacturers to let them know...."your product won our giant comparo, would you like to run a full page ad' in the same issue etc etc"
4WD Monthly certainly can't be accused of bias towards advertisers after it's snatch strap comparo blasted the ARB product. ARB would have to be one of their biggest advertisers.
Just my opinion.
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Reply By: Member - Chris M (QLD) - Tuesday, Aug 10, 2004 at 08:11

Tuesday, Aug 10, 2004 at 08:11
John,

I've had a set of Ralley 4000's and the 240 Blitz, don't have a complaint on either, the Ralley 4000's are more expensive and are a little more weighty, however travelled well on the track into Bathurst Bay etc etc and never failed. Not sure on cost these days but don't think you'd get much change from $500???

Have a set of 240 Blitz, no difference between Blitz and XGT apart from case and mount as Roachie said above, same light distance etc etc, just more expensive. I can get them for $280 a pair without bulk order and about $250 each for bulk order. To date, no complaints about 240's, just make sure a good wiring look is installed and switch, no need comprimising your lights with bad wiring (from experience on last truck!)

Cheers

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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Tuesday, Aug 10, 2004 at 18:13

Tuesday, Aug 10, 2004 at 18:13
Umm Chris, $280 a pair or 250 each now what is it man?
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, Aug 10, 2004 at 21:32

Tuesday, Aug 10, 2004 at 21:32
If its a pair, I'll take 120000 pairs.
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Follow Up By: Member Eric - Tuesday, Aug 10, 2004 at 21:39

Tuesday, Aug 10, 2004 at 21:39
ill take whats left lol
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Follow Up By: Member - Chris M (QLD) - Thursday, Aug 12, 2004 at 10:19

Thursday, Aug 12, 2004 at 10:19
Hi guys,

I can get a pair for $280 when purchasing one box at a time. Been a while since I did a bulk order but last time got a $250 deal per pair. I would assume now however that $280 is the go. Just purchased a set for a mate at $280. Would prefer however that they were to go to your car and not to someone else if you were to make a profit, as my mate likes to get me deals but obviously, I pass on that exact saving...if you know what I mean???

And that's for the Blitz, not XGT. Don't know why you'd buy the more expensive XGT's anyway, not adjustable and heaps more expensive.

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Follow Up By: Member Eric - Thursday, Aug 12, 2004 at 17:58

Thursday, Aug 12, 2004 at 17:58
ok , before we all bet exited , are you getting the Red Tab lights or the black tab lights & are they the ones with the new breather ?
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Reply By: Willem - Tuesday, Aug 10, 2004 at 08:20

Tuesday, Aug 10, 2004 at 08:20
Hmmmmm...your ship come in again?.............:-)
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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Tuesday, Aug 10, 2004 at 16:27

Tuesday, Aug 10, 2004 at 16:27
Young Willy it is still being unloaded. LOL.
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Reply By: GO_OFFROAD - Tuesday, Aug 10, 2004 at 09:06

Tuesday, Aug 10, 2004 at 09:06
Once you have had lightforce lights, you will never go back to the dark side ;-)

You can easily have 2 spreads, or 2 spots, or one spread, one spot, just by swapping the cover, which makes for one of the best spread beams you can get IMHO.

Yellow covers are also great for working at night.
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Tuesday, Aug 10, 2004 at 18:14

Tuesday, Aug 10, 2004 at 18:14
GO, is it the cover that changes them from spread to spot? What are the loights without the cover, spot I would imagine?
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Follow Up By: GO_OFFROAD - Tuesday, Aug 10, 2004 at 19:38

Tuesday, Aug 10, 2004 at 19:38
They are spot standard, and you can buy spread covers [$22 aprox ea] the spread covers give a very good spread of light, and 2 covers on windy mountain roads stop the mesmorising spots as you turn corner after corner.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, Aug 10, 2004 at 21:33

Tuesday, Aug 10, 2004 at 21:33
BOnz, I run one of each cover spread and pencil.. work good..

Also can get colored ones if your that way inclined.

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Reply By: Dave from Fraser Coast 4WD Club - Tuesday, Aug 10, 2004 at 18:04

Tuesday, Aug 10, 2004 at 18:04
Get the Hellas, the spread is a true spead, not just a wound in cover that projects a big circle over the ground, trees, stars etc.

I find that the LFs are brighter, but do not offer the same quality of light, they seem to lack the definition of the Hellas

Just MHO
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Follow Up By: Member Eric - Thursday, Aug 12, 2004 at 20:00

Thursday, Aug 12, 2004 at 20:00
Ive had both & I sell both . Im with you Dave . Also found the Hellas to have much better adjustments . I use 2 spots and have seen no need for any spread .


Now i dont want a debait on this guys . This is only what "I" have found.
Everyone has diffrent needs when it comes to lights
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