Good 4WD for Towing and Beaching - Opinions needed

generally unreliable? Only if you believe the fabricated postings on this list.

Bob, What I said is common knowledge amongst four wheel drivers. Surely it's quite reasonable to pass on common knowledge to a person making a genuine enquiry. Not everyone is experienced in four wheel driving - that's why they ask questions. If I know that a vehicle has deficiencies then I feel I'm obliged to pass that knowledge on. If you disagree, that's fine - but I object to having my opinion branded as a fabrication! You should simply present your opinion with reasons. My reasons for saying that Landrovers are not good in sand is simply because of their tyres being narrower than those on Toyotas. That can be remedied by fitting wider wheels but that involves some expense and inconvenience. As for the generally unreliable aspect, you will find many people who hold that opinion and it is based on years of observation and camp fire discussions. They're a nice looking vehicle which conjure up fond memories for many people but they're not a vehicle which meets the standards required by today's four wheel drivers. I guess you're an old guy and if you're happy with yours that's fine. BUT other people are allowed to have an opinion contrary to yours!!

Yes I agree with Graeme. A ranking in mid sized would be Prado, Pajero, Jackaroo, Cherokee, Disco