turbo diesel

It could only be 1 of 3 things

1) Diamond pi$$ed again
2) A TROLL
3) a Dunce that cant seach the archives for something asked weekly. Probably more than that...

Maybe the name 'GOOSY', says it all LOL

G'day Mate,
I should just also have added to my comments about electronic things going bung that I was relying on 2nd/3rd hand anecdotal evidence......it has been reported that the bloke who runs the servo at Birdsville and who does a lot of Simpson recoveries has said that the majority of vehicle failures (not including roll-overs etc) which require his efforts to rescue, are heavily weighted towards electronic failures rather than mechanical failures (excluding tyres).
I know I'd be stuffed if my injector pump or anything else as serious went wrong; and it can. However, the fact that I've never had any mechanical breakdown on any of my old "bangers" over the past 15 years and over 500,000 klm collectively, is evidence enough in my mind to stick with the old technology for as long as I can.
I know the electronic systems are getting better all the time and I realise that the next time I want to update my truck it will almost certainly have to be to a sparky-type controlled donk. I just hope that by then (maybe another 5 years) that the "black-box" gremlins have all be dealt with. There are a lot of advantages to this modern stuff.....I'd love to be able to increase the engine performance by simply whacking in a new $1,500- chip etc.
Cya in the bush some time mate.

Just to add further debate to the "reliable dinasour" vs "high tech wonder", the bottom line is outback travel is no longer the life and death risk like yesteryear!!!

IMHO, your are FAR more likely to suffer a tyre failure, but lets say whatever problem thats stops you, all you do is simply jump on your sat phone, HF radio or even the EPIRB and tell them your exact location from your GPS. Thats only if someone has already driven by!!!

Very few of us are ever in such a remote place they we don't see another vehicle every few hours. Those of us lucky enough to actually not see a vehicle for a few days would most certainly be well equipped with one or more communication devices.

We all talk about the relaibaility of many vehicles, particularly the Nissan 3.0TD, but how many 3.0TD have ever broken down in a remote location. Of ALL the breakdowns I have heard/read about, they generally involve the freeway type driving at the speed limit (ie. relatively hot engine). I have never heard of one letting go while out on a 4WD type trail (but will certainly stand corrected).

So whats my point, well I think we all over-rate the required reliability of the engine and forget about the 2 cent widgit that we don't carry but will leave us stranded.

Cheers

Captain

PS. Roachie - seen the latest BMW 3.0TD, has peak torque of 480Nm from the factory!!! Makes my Dtronic 420Nm seem low.

What I find ironic is that my first ever diesel 4WD, an MQ Patrol, died on me within weeks of ownership because of an electronics failure. There was an electronic module that controlled the glowplugs and starting setup and it blew a resistor or such. This thing for quite some time worried me as we did some major high country and outback trips, but it never went on the fritz again.

Many don't realise it, but all diesels have a fair number of electronic bits controlling some function of the engine. The latest 4.2lt Patrol now has an electronically controlled fuel pump because of the emissions regulations.

You'll also find all of the new trucks are going fully electronic (in fact they have led the field) because it improves power and torque, and fuel economy. Whether it's long-haul highway or outback, it's the way things are going.

It'd be interesting to find out what types of electronics failures have occurred and in what vehicles.

"Very few of us are ever in such a remote place they we don't see another vehicle every few hours."

remember the old bloke earlier this yr, that rolled his Disco that was saved by Epirb?
The local cop said on the news, that if he didnt have that, chances were nobody would have passed there for '2 weeks', yea a figure he pulled out of his bum, but it can happen.. If he didnt have Epirb, he would now be used for wildlife fertilizer.

The issue I see... is that you are more likely to find someone who can fix an non computerised problem in the middle of nowhere, than computerised... Getting car towed back from middle of nowhere, people have mentioned recovery fees of $3000. yea cheap.

YMMV...

Nissan of old, I would just like to correct you on the assumption that most diesals rely on electrics. The older ones sure didnt. They may have them but they dont rely on them. My 2h cruiser crapped out badly the day before I was about to go on a 14k exploreoz trip. The modules that control the edic motor (on/off overfueletc) and the module that controls the glowplugs both died. Didnt even slow me down I didnt notice the glow plugs up north and just took some xta cranking to start when south. as for the edic motor - when I pulled up I just stalled it. The only power these donks need is for the starter motor

EFI motor probably would get you that much $, theres a TD42 forsale on OLimits for $3000