New Patrol Stats Intimidating for Brady Bunch LC100 Wagon

Fair point, but Patrol has advantage in active safety, ie with its better angles and clearences you are less likely to be stopped in the middle of nowhere or require risky recovery. Less chance of its front or rear being torn off or held up (esp creek crossings), or its vital spare tyre being ruined (let alone changing it). IFS damage......
seems to be city vs bush safety.
interested to see if new patrol addresses the seat issues.

Yes, only real thing that prevented us from buying.

Being tall, I wouldn't have minded some of the driver height clearances that even some of the smaller fourbies have got too.

I'm told that the Jackaroo had the best driver seating for a tall bloke, but thay are too small a truck for what we want.

Travel well.

Hear Hear! Cmon Nissan give us what we want!

Like I said LC100 - not the standard cruisers - but the big sellers ifs models. I am comparing like with like in model range. figures from toyota website. I disagree - IMO Nissan figures are significantly better.

Toyota Kluger - approach 29; departure 24; ramp 19; 184clearence.

Similar jump between Kluger and LC100, to LC100 and Patrol.
ie LC100 smack in middle with specs (actually closer to kluger in dep angle).

So would you also say there's really not alot in it between LC100 and Kluger??

Then how about you clearly define that you are talking about the
GXL TD, and GXV model for us not so learned. At the end of the day any Patrol or Cruiser will cover 99.5% of Australia anyway as they are. Same as Falcon / Commodore. Both get you to work and back.

I wrote 100, not 105 (like yours). are these still separate models? I also noted not 'standard' models anyway.

I get the picture, But, You can buy GXL with rigid axle, RV with rigid axle, Which are not "standard" or 105 series. Therefore when we narrow it down you are only referring to IFS 100 series, which you cant compare to "like model Nissan" cause GU is not IFS>

Since roughly 99% of ALL Landcruisers are now IFS, and 100% of ALL Patrols are solid axle - I think its fair to compare those categories!

schevenko, I dont know the figures but i think you will find most l/c sold go for comercial / fleet use (mining,hire,government) and they are Standards so I recken your assumption of 99% could be out

Lets get serios now - a Defender was used at work out of kalgoorlie and was found sorely lacking as it had niether the body integraty (dented far to easily for cross country work) or the reliability (real pain having to drive them round in 2nd coz youve lost the rest of the gears). The guys in Perth quite like them for towing caravans out to base camps but when the serious stuff starts the Land Cruiser 78series n/a utes are king and will certainly put its overweight big sister the 100 to shame

Troopy is a truck I admire for its focus.