prado 120 advice

Submitted: Thursday, Aug 26, 2004 at 04:02
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Hi All,

It has come to the time for my wifes car to be replaced, and she likes the look of the new Land cruiser. It is called the land cruiser in the uk but you call it the prado 120.

The car will be used 99% of the time on the road and if it was not for me it would never go off road. But i have always had a interest in the Land cruiser and what a good way to kill two birds with one stone. If we buy this car i can set about it and turn it into a decent off roader, or can i?

That is my question, am i kidding myself on in thinking the prado is a true land cruiser? How capable is it really offroad, i know it has IFS but i personnaly belive we will just have to live with this in the future. The beam axle i am sad to say is on its way out, so we need to accept the IFS and make the best of it. Thats why i will now keep my patrol for a very long time and only mess about with the prado, but who knows it might turn out better than the patrol.

So how good is the prado offroad.

Is it turning out to be a reliable car?

Is there more room for the driver than the GU Patrol? As i said before i do not really find a big problem with the patrol but as i have not driven any other jap 4x4 i have nothing to compare it with.

Is it well built?

Are there lots of accesries for it and if not will they appear.

Thanks for any help.

Ps take it for a test drive next saturday.
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Reply By: drivesafe - Thursday, Aug 26, 2004 at 05:04

Thursday, Aug 26, 2004 at 05:04
Hi scottcamp, I would not go for any other 4WD than a Disco in that range, but thats my choice. The thing is why just look at the Prado. Go test drive as many 4WDs that you and YOUR WIFE can get your hands on. Most dealers will bend over backwards to try and get your dollars so go have some fun at there expense.
Also, I don’t know if it is still on, but some time back, LR was doing a push and were giving potential buyers a Disco for the weekend. Try your luck.
Regards.
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Follow Up By: scottcamp - Thursday, Aug 26, 2004 at 07:35

Thursday, Aug 26, 2004 at 07:35
Hi Drive safe,

That’s good advice, I should try some other cars, oops it not my car well I suppose if the colour is right the other half will be happy. But you are right I have a habit of getting one car in my head and if I like we buy it but unfortunately we have a limited choice as its a company car. The reason I am taking my time over choosing the car is after the 2 year term is up we get the chance to buy the car.

The discovery is a good idea but I do not want to buy such a new model. I am also not to pleased that the discovery has went independent suspension all round and a very debateable separate chassis. It has electronics to make it behave like a beam axle but in my mind it needs to prove itself first but also only the top end model gets these electronics. The base models are left with fully independent, in my opinion Ford have destroyed the discovery The Range rover is currently using this T5 chassis and suspension set-up. Got a shot in one at the last Land rover off road day and is was a stunning machine but I’m still not convinced that electronics are the way to go.

The most worrying thing is the Defender looks like it will follow the T5 chassis route, but its only rumours, not even ford would dare wreck the Defender. I drive an old defender for fun and trash it offroad at weekends so I am well aware of its need to be updated. But all crap aside the defender is the ultimate offroad expedition vehicle, it might not be perfect, far from it but it is the best when the going gets tough. Before I get shot down in flames I do not mean a standard Defender and certainly not that crap TD5 engine. What I mean is, in the UK there is a massive following for the Defender to such an extent there are thousands of specialists who can convert the Defender into anything for the right amount of cash. It is this adaptability that makes the defender unique and the moment they fill it with crap gizmos is the day the defender will end. I am not saying that other car with similar modifications could not equal it what I am saying is, its the ease at which you can modify a Defender which can not be beaten. Ford better not wreck the Defender.

Sorry I am off the subject, on a rant about the defender again.

So yes I will look at other cars but not the discovery for the above reasons. I will not consider the old model either just because they are everywhere in the UK as they outsell almost every other 4x4.
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Follow Up By: scottcamp - Thursday, Aug 26, 2004 at 07:44

Thursday, Aug 26, 2004 at 07:44
Oops just been given into trouble with the other half about the colour slander as she puts it. I take that back, but all joking aside she is not really interested in cars but she does find the patrol too big, that was another reason for looking at the smaller land cruiser.
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Reply By: RainMaker - Thursday, Aug 26, 2004 at 09:44

Thursday, Aug 26, 2004 at 09:44
Here's my opinion.

I have a Prado 120 GXL, V6, Manual, and I'm more than happy with it.
While this is the first 4x4 I've owned, I have driven 100 series Landcruisers at work.
If size and towing capacity is not an issue, IMO the Prado kills the LC for on-road comfort and ease of driving in traffic etc. Basically, it almost feels like you’re driving a large sedan or wagon where as the LC feels more like a truck in comparison. Both my wife and I love driving it.
I've always owned V8's, with the last car being a Holden, VU SS Ute. Though the Prado might not have the grunt of a V8, it still performs very well and will pull up hills in top at 110km/hr with no complaint. I'm averaging about 12.9Lts/100km with a combination of City, Hills and Freeway driving.
Reliability has been fine. 24,000km travelled so far without any complaint.
Build quality is excellent. In the US they market the 120 Series as a Lexus.
I haven't done a lot of off-road yet, but did go on a trip recently with a GU Patrol. One 40km section took us 4.5hrs to travel over, mostly into, up, and out of creek beds etc. The Prado never looked like faltering, and handled everything thrown at it with ease. In relation to the IFS issue, I did have a wheel or two hanging at times, but it never looked like slowing us. In fact the GU hung a wheel also, though maybe not quite as high. The only area that could be improved is a bit more ground clearance. One creek we passed through scraped the bull bar on the way in, and the rear bumper on the way out. Though the GU also scraped a little bit too.
Most of the standard accessories are available. I have the factory bulbar, towbar, cargo barrier and roof racks. I have installed an auxiliary battery system and will add driving lights soon. Other accessories, such as spring lifts etc are becoming more common. Also, the availability of 17” tyres is also getting better now.

You will always get people saying that this 4x4 is better than that 4x4. I can only tell you about my experience with the Prado.

Would I buy another one? YES, wouldn’t even have to think about it.

Regards,
Tony
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Follow Up By: scottcamp - Thursday, Aug 26, 2004 at 17:00

Thursday, Aug 26, 2004 at 17:00
Hi Tony,

What was the leg room in the prado like compared to the GU and th LC 100.
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Follow Up By: RainMaker - Friday, Aug 27, 2004 at 08:27

Friday, Aug 27, 2004 at 08:27
I'm 6ft tall, my left leg is almost straight when I use the cluch, and the drivers seat can still move back further.
I've had 6ft tall people in the back and they have had plenty of leg room.
I didn't end up driving the GU, so I can't compare the two from personal experience.
The seem to remember sitting more upright in the LC 100. It's more like sitting in an office chair. Where as the Prado feels more like a normal passenger car. Visibility is still excellent in the Prado, on-road and off-road.

A test drive will confirm the comfort for your use.

Hope this helps.
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Reply By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Thursday, Aug 26, 2004 at 13:15

Thursday, Aug 26, 2004 at 13:15
Prados are a good truck, it'll go hard offroad and will be a perfect lady on road. Reliable, tested and proven and there will always be plenty of accessories for a yota.
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Reply By: Member - Ivan (ACT) - Thursday, Aug 26, 2004 at 21:27

Thursday, Aug 26, 2004 at 21:27
If you want more advice, join the 120 list at www.lcool.org

You'll also see the 120 doing a double crossing of the Simpson at http://www.lcool.org/trips/double_simpson_2004/simpson_report.html

There were 16 vehicles ranging between 80, 90, 100 and 105 series vehicles - the 'official photographer' who drove behind all vehicles for some distance reckoned the 120 handled the ride the best..

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