Comman Misconception?
Submitted: Saturday, Aug 28, 2004 at 18:47
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Alex Callaghan
I've been looking around and have noticed alot of people automaticaly accosiating IFS with Toyotas.
100 series standard have solid axel.
GXL Diesel have solid axel.
I think theres a general felling that Toyo have completly sold out on off road ability (not that I think IFS to much of a hinderence when your doing it tough)
I know most of yous know this but I just wanted to state it incase some have forgoten or just fail to coment on this every time you give some body feed back in "What vehical should I get type thread".
The Standard 100 is a get out there work hard and get amongst it kind a vehical! So is the 4.2 Patrol. Both of them have SFS. Both great off roaders!
I just think theres a little too much............"Bloody toyota and their ISF, they've sold out".....kind of meantality goin round?
Reply By: mr diamond - Saturday, Aug 28, 2004 at 19:34
Saturday, Aug 28, 2004 at 19:34
............"Bloody toyota and their ISF, they've sold out".....
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Follow Up By: Alex Callaghan - Saturday, Aug 28, 2004 at 20:06
Saturday, Aug 28, 2004 at 20:06
Lol
See this is what I'm talkin bout! ;-)
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Monday, Aug 30, 2004 at 10:28
Monday, Aug 30, 2004 at 10:28
yea but you also mentioned mentality..
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Reply By: stitch - Saturday, Aug 28, 2004 at 20:34
Saturday, Aug 28, 2004 at 20:34
I own an 80 series turbo diesel, and ask myself why did Toyota go the torsion bar setup with 100 series t/d and V8 when they made a good move from 60 to 80 series leaf spring to coil. in my opinion going to torsoion bar IFS is a move behind leaf sprung solid axles.
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Reply By: Baz (NSW) - Saturday, Aug 28, 2004 at 21:07
Saturday, Aug 28, 2004 at 21:07
Get over it, i already am !!!
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Reply By: hoyks - Saturday, Aug 28, 2004 at 22:02
Saturday, Aug 28, 2004 at 22:02
But if they are in a Yota, they might not be able to. ;-)
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Reply By: Eric Experience. - Saturday, Aug 28, 2004 at 22:20
Saturday, Aug 28, 2004 at 22:20
Alex.
The GXL diesel does not have a solid axle. Eric.
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Follow Up By: Outnabout David (SA) - Saturday, Aug 28, 2004 at 23:13
Saturday, Aug 28, 2004 at 23:13
Eric,
The GXL diesel alex refers to is the normally asperated version and is still available with solid front axle although not sold in high numbers as most people choose the turbo..
The Turbo diesel is the one along with V8 petrol that has IFS.
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Reply By: Michael - Sunday, Aug 29, 2004 at 20:59
Sunday, Aug 29, 2004 at 20:59
"Oh What a Feeling" Toyota,,,, King of the Blacktop...................
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Follow Up By: Alex Callaghan - Sunday, Aug 29, 2004 at 21:07
Sunday, Aug 29, 2004 at 21:07
" The bottom Line"................There goes anouther blown 3ltr.
Bloody nissan...............Built for people that put from the rough mate! ;-)
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Reply By: Moose - Monday, Aug 30, 2004 at 13:27
Monday, Aug 30, 2004 at 13:27
It's a simple business decision for Toyota (and I bet Nissan isn't too far away from IFS either). Given that IFS gives a smoother ride on road, and given that the vast majority of 4WDs never see any real 4WD terrain, why shouldn't a vehicle manufacturer instal IFS if it sells more vehicles? Why should they cater for just 1% or so of their buyers? - no business would stay viable for long following that line of thinking. Toyota still cater for the real 4WDer via their base model vehicles - thanks to the mining industry. If it wasn't for the mining industry it's not hard to imagine all models being IFS. It's all about dollars.
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