landrover freelander oil in water
Submitted: Tuesday, Aug 31, 2004 at 23:12
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DMECH
Have a rover freelander getting oil in
water [lots of it ] its a 98 4 cyl alloy block
about 80.000 kms on clock hasnt been cooked have removed head found 1 burnt valve ex.head us flat gasket looks good presure tested oilway in head ok
does anyone know if these cars have problems with the block suspect crack in oil gallery as oil leaks to
water when
water is under pressure. no
water in oil
would appreciate any answers to this one
dmech
Reply By: Bilbo - Tuesday, Aug 31, 2004 at 23:44
Tuesday, Aug 31, 2004 at 23:44
DMECH,
I'm not sure what this means "1 burnt valve ex.head us flat gasket looks good". Some punctuation would be good.
However, I strongly suspect a cracked cylinder
bore if the head gasket was not burnt or blown AND the head has been checked for flatness against a plate with engineers blue or with a good straight edge.
As it's an aluminium block, does it have "wet" cylinder liners or "dry" cyl liners?
Aluminum blocks have always scared me.
Bilbo
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Reply By: DMECH - Tuesday, Aug 31, 2004 at 23:57
Tuesday, Aug 31, 2004 at 23:57
sorry bilbo should read found 1 burnt ex. valve head is flat cant see any relation to burnt valve and oil in
water. eng. has wet sleeves however i dont think it is any thing to do with sleeves
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Follow Up By: Member - Bob - Wednesday, Sep 01, 2004 at 07:02
Wednesday, Sep 01, 2004 at 07:02
Sorry Bilbo. It should read : "I found one burnt exhaust valve. The head is flat. I can't see any relation to burnt valve and oil in
water. Engine has wet sleeves, however I don't think it is anything to do with sleeves."
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Reply By: crfan - Wednesday, Sep 01, 2004 at 10:00
Wednesday, Sep 01, 2004 at 10:00
I am not familar with this engine does it have an oil cooler on the side of the block ? if it is not that I would suspect the head before the block...
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Follow Up By: Peter Guy - Wednesday, Sep 01, 2004 at 10:10
Wednesday, Sep 01, 2004 at 10:10
I don't know your motor but on a Commodore VL with the Nissan motor I had oil leaking into the coolant and it was a cracked head. The crack was in the over head cam
well.
Similar symptons to yours.
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Reply By: Member - 'Lucy' - Wednesday, Sep 01, 2004 at 19:28
Wednesday, Sep 01, 2004 at 19:28
Dmech
I had this problem in two Nissan (petrol) motors I have had over the years.
Both had alloy heads and started to 'pee' oil into the water/coolant, slowly at first, then in copious amounts.
The were both cracked, with the said cracks going through the oil gallery.
One was fixed by welding and a welding attempt on the other failed due to the position of the crack.
It was right across the head between No. 2 & No. 3 cylinder and full depth of the oil gallery. Had to throw it out and re condition a used one which I have on now.
The cause of this one was my own doing from way too much R&Díng in the way of machining to tweak up the 'power'.
No idea why the other one cracked, however suspect a cooking.
The other thing was that the only test that revealed the said cracks was a compressed air test in the engineering
shop, where they plated off all ports, submerged the whole head, and pressured up quite high before the cracks became apparent. Quite amazing to watch, as I thought they would show fairly easily.
Anyway there's two bobs worth of useless experience/information for you to think about
Ken Robinson
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Reply By: richardrb44 - Wednesday, Sep 01, 2004 at 21:31
Wednesday, Sep 01, 2004 at 21:31
hi
There has been a lot of bad press regarding the cylinder head on freelanders over here recently so you may have the same problem click on the link for more info.Hope this helps.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/watchdog/reports/transport9.shtml
Rich
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Follow Up By: DMECH - Friday, Sep 03, 2004 at 23:48
Friday, Sep 03, 2004 at 23:48
thanks ritch checked the site, ses it all, rover still makes junk!
not cheap either. exhaust valve about the size of a three h.p. honda stationary eng. $100.34 [ that's for one only]
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Reply By: stevesub - Thursday, Sep 02, 2004 at 17:33
Thursday, Sep 02, 2004 at 17:33
This model engine gives trouble, usually around the head gasket area. My suggestion is to see someone who is an expert on these engines as there may be a crack in the block somewhere.
Maybe a Landrover dealer can help but their fix would be a new engine - and it may come to that from what I have heard on various Freelander forums that I subscribe to.
We have a V6 Freelander, still not the best of engines but a bit more reliable than the 1.8 one. Pity about the rest of the vehicle.
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Reply By: Siegucci - Saturday, Sep 04, 2004 at 10:09
Saturday, Sep 04, 2004 at 10:09
Dmech
Freelander engines are
well known to drop the liners into the block.
Because the liners are steel and the block is alloy, the harder liners work theyr way into the block. Get a specialist on it to measure the liner heights. There is also a new headgasket available and you have to change the thermostat setup. Land Rover recommends to remove the existing thermostat and fit a new top radiator hose with inbuild thermostat to increase the coolant flow in the head during warm up.
I never came across a cracked head or oil gallery on a Freelander. The bad news are;
If the liners are too low, the engine needs to be replaced!!
Hope this helps
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