Bi Tron
Submitted: Thursday, Sep 02, 2004 at 20:27
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troy
Hello all
Just wondering if anyone has used bi tron additives in their fuel or oil?
Any feed back would be appreciated.
Troy
Reply By: Member - Jimbo (VIC) - Thursday, Sep 02, 2004 at 21:43
Thursday, Sep 02, 2004 at 21:43
Troy,
About five years ago I had discussion with a Bi Tron convert (distributor) who was like a crazed Christian about the product. After viewing the videos and sensibly assessing the virtues of the product I thought it to be a modern incarnation of "Snake Oil".
It was promoted to to me as something that would convert petrol to a miracle product. I seriously doubt its abilty to change the world.
The choice is your's.
Good luck with your projects.
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Reply By: Member - Brett H (QLD) - Thursday, Sep 02, 2004 at 21:59
Thursday, Sep 02, 2004 at 21:59
Just use ordinary oil and fuel. I doubt the cost of Bi tron is worth the benefit.
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Reply By: Member Eric - Thursday, Sep 02, 2004 at 22:09
Thursday, Sep 02, 2004 at 22:09
Ok , will give my experience ,
was contacted a few years ago to push bitron though my service station and was given the tapes to view . I took tape to a friend who does video production and we both analised the tape in his studio. We were on the ground laughing when we saw that the tape is doctored , we took it frame by frame , and found frames that hadent been coloured in where the oil miraculasly pulls together .
Now if there are any bitron reps here that wish to take me to court for slander , be my guest . I have kept my tape and can back up what i just mentioned
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Follow Up By: troy - Friday, Sep 03, 2004 at 18:30
Friday, Sep 03, 2004 at 18:30
Nice little set up you have.
Whats the difference between the lock right locker in the rear diff and the air locker in the front? Any specific reason for the different lockers in each diff?
Just curious
Troy
Tired to send a message but must have to be a member to do so
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Follow Up By: Member Eric - Friday, Sep 03, 2004 at 19:29
Friday, Sep 03, 2004 at 19:29
If I fitted a rear air locker , I would have had a open diff when the locker was off . So I opted for the lockright to have like a lsd when on dirt roads
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Reply By: Billy - Friday, Sep 03, 2004 at 07:43
Friday, Sep 03, 2004 at 07:43
I remember checking out the oil additive and it's "monecular attraction" feature, "used by the russian millitary" and so on. This was about 10 years ago. I remember thinking that if this was so good then how come major suppliers don't add it to thier formula. Then Castrol Magnatec turned up. Reads to me like the same additive has been used.
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Reply By: Outnabout David (SA) - Friday, Sep 03, 2004 at 10:25
Friday, Sep 03, 2004 at 10:25
I can't comment on the product because I have never used it. I think they are or were and advertiser here but despite several emails to them I never got any replies.
God I hate people with web or email addresses that either never reply or don't look at them or have third parties who then forward them on by fax
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Reply By: Coops (Pilbara) - Friday, Sep 03, 2004 at 10:52
Friday, Sep 03, 2004 at 10:52
Troy
I've used it for years now and have found it to be very good.
The fuel additive I can take or leave but I did get excellent additional returns from an NA Fairlane that I had. I only still use it cos I got some in the shed.
The Engine Formula I swear by and the 2-4-6 Metal Treatment also gave me good evidence of being worthwhile with all gearboxes and transmissions that I've used it in. Have also had excellent results with the trye sealant and use that on all my vehicles & trailers.
I can appreciate all of the comments above and was sceptical prior to using Bitron also but haven't been sorry to have it in all my vehicles.
They're not as big an organisation as they once were with the Multi Level Marketing side of things falling away (that's probably a good thing) but you can still get the stuff. I think they've even got links to this site as an advertiser somewhere.
No commission for me - just my opinion but again I can appreciate everyone else's comments and experiences.
Feel free to contact should you have any more questions
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Follow Up By: troy - Friday, Sep 03, 2004 at 18:24
Friday, Sep 03, 2004 at 18:24
They claim to improve fuel economy (with their fuel additive) and they also claim that they figures are improved with the addition of installing another product in both diffs and transfer case and again another in the sump. Approx 20% improvement.
prices quoted -
fuel
tank additive 354 ml $27.50
sump additive 470ml $47.50 or 236 ml $24.50
Transmission (diff transfer) $39.50
I'm always looking to improve fuel economy on the old hilux
Do you have any figures on fuel economy on your 4wd?
Troy
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Follow Up By: Coops (Pilbara) - Saturday, Sep 04, 2004 at 09:15
Saturday, Sep 04, 2004 at 09:15
have been using it since day one on my 4x4 so can't give specifics-sorry.
The 2-4-6 Metal treatment is the transmission/steering gear and for $40 every diff & transmission oil change I thought it was worthwhile. Again I've been using it since day one.
My fuel economy figures are no different to anyone else's but I do have air con running 24/7, have a roof rack permanently mounted and cover a lot of highway
miles (heavily laden) before I get anywhere and all of these factors keep me at the bad end of fuel economy. My 80 weighs in at 3260 kg with full tanks. Had the trailer on when that was weighed and don't know if that figure is with or without trailer. Trailer was 410 kg.
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Follow Up By: troy - Saturday, Sep 04, 2004 at 11:38
Saturday, Sep 04, 2004 at 11:38
Thats cool
Is the 80 series petrol or diesel? I know that at highway speeds (fully laden and pushing it along) the fuel econ goes out the window.
What is ur fuel economy like under those cirsumstances?
Ta
Troy
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Reply By: ianmc - Friday, Sep 03, 2004 at 12:03
Friday, Sep 03, 2004 at 12:03
They are generalisations Coops. Maybe you could post some specific facts & figures re engine life & fuel use improvements??
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Follow Up By: Coops (Pilbara) - Saturday, Sep 04, 2004 at 09:16
Saturday, Sep 04, 2004 at 09:16
Haven't kept any data at all
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Reply By: mcgra - Friday, Sep 03, 2004 at 23:52
Friday, Sep 03, 2004 at 23:52
hello try
i have been using bitron for about 12 months in my 60 series have done the whole thing diffs gear boxs engine and use the fuel additive for diesel.
the first time i put it in my engine i had to change the oil filter after 2 days. it was choked with crap. now i bought this 60 series from my mate who had had it for 7 years and he bought it from the orginal first owner with full service history and my mate contiued with the oil changes and so on religiosly.
so after i had done the 800kms as it stated i changed the oil and new filter with the recommened engine additive.
used the fuel additive took about 3 tank fills before i really noticed a difference in kms per tank.
i was getting about 480 per tank 90 lts town driving and now get 560.
people refer to it as snake oil thats their call.
but i get 80 kms per tank more town driving than before now snake oil it might be but it makes me happy.
have also found the guy in queensland brian to be most helpfull and always see to it that the shipments arrive in quick time and if u have any issues is always helpful.
i have put some others onto it and they have seen improvements in there kms per tank.
but i guess if you dont try it u wont know.
gra
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Follow Up By: troy - Saturday, Sep 04, 2004 at 11:35
Saturday, Sep 04, 2004 at 11:35
Thanks for the info
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Follow Up By: Bob H - Saturday, Sep 04, 2004 at 20:06
Saturday, Sep 04, 2004 at 20:06
maybe it just cleaned out the crap accumulated from using crap oil???
each to their own and if you are happy then thats good.
regards
Bob
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