L/Crusier 100 series Turbo/Non Turbo

Submitted: Monday, Sep 06, 2004 at 09:03
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Currently looking to upgrade 80 series petrol auto to new 100 series diesel. Company runs fleet of 100 Series IFS Turbo's with auto's. Great power on nice to drive on the high way ect, and no problems at all (to date)

My use will be work (Black top) and some familiy R & R (Staddie, Double Island, Fraser, Kinkuna) with no real tough off road use (unfortunalty). Will be towing a camper, or trailer up to 1000 kg

The IFS and the $10 0000.00 extra price tag do not excite me to much. Has any one done a comparison of the 2 (Turbo, and non turbo), and what discision did you come to ???, and why??

I have had 80 series with diesel, and am not expecting to set any land speed records

The Non Turbo with an Auto...How do people find that conbination ??

Thanks for your comments

Simon

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Reply By: Member - Chris M (QLD) - Monday, Sep 06, 2004 at 09:31

Monday, Sep 06, 2004 at 09:31
Although I have only been in a turbo 100, it was an auto and I have driven plenty of naturally aspirated diesels.

However, if you are towing over longer distances up ranges and through sand, trust me, in a years time you'll be looking at aftermarket turbos anyway. Then you'll look at the next tyre size, accessorise, better supension and your truck will weigh 200 or 300 kg's heavier than before. Take Roachie for example! Can't speak for him, but I'll bet his glad he has the turbo!

Go to Toyota, get them to strike you a deal on the turbo jobby, get as close as you can to the naturally aspirated price and you'll feel better. Long term in my own opinion you'll be happy you went the turbo option. If it was just around town as a shopper and kid mover, it wouldn't matter.

Leave it to you mate, let us all know your decision.

Chris.
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Reply By: Michael - Monday, Sep 06, 2004 at 10:11

Monday, Sep 06, 2004 at 10:11
There is always the Patrol..mmmmmmmm!!!!!!!
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Follow Up By: Simon C - Monday, Sep 06, 2004 at 10:16

Monday, Sep 06, 2004 at 10:16
Thanks Micheal, but I have "company" reasons for staying with the Land Cruiser.

Don't worry...I have looked at the Patrol, and have respect for it.

I am not after a Cruiser/Patrol debate here...there has been plentry of that.

Simon
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Reply By: Member - Captain (WA) - Monday, Sep 06, 2004 at 11:28

Monday, Sep 06, 2004 at 11:28
Hi Simon,

I had a 80 series 1HZ for many years and did a fair bit of towing in that time (I have a 1.6T offroad van). When I got my GU, I couldn't believe how much difference it makes having sufficient power when towing - 274Nm vs 420Nm (Dtronic). I know you are looking at only Toyota, either turbo or non-turbo - not starting a GU/Toyota thread, just looking purely at torque difference between two vehicles.

After experiencing having good power/torque for towing, I could never go back to a 1HZ without a turbo. Before I had the GU, I was happy with the 1HZ for towing, but it was S...L...O...W... as soon as anything but level ground was encountered. I even put on extractors and a 2 1/2" system and while it made a noticeable difference, it cannot even begin to compare to the torque of the GU.

While the 1HZ non-turbo will lug a heavy load all day and have no problems at all, it is simply nowhere near as relaxed as towing with a GU/Toyota turbo and having 420Nm to make hills simply disappear. Hills that took 3rd in the 80 series can be done in 5th in the GU, there is that much difference!

At the end of the day, either vehicle will get you to where you are going and you could live with the 1HZ, but having a turbo makes it simply that much more relaxing.

Cheers

Captain
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Reply By: GO_OFFROAD - Monday, Sep 06, 2004 at 17:17

Monday, Sep 06, 2004 at 17:17
The IFS is much better suited to your use than live axle, and the vehicle will be much nicer to drive with IFS, not to mention the resale vs non turbo.

Add a dtronic to improve low down power, and economy on the 1hdtfe as well.
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Reply By: Member - Dave (Pilbara) - Tuesday, Sep 07, 2004 at 00:01

Tuesday, Sep 07, 2004 at 00:01
Turbo, Turbo,Turbo,let me say it one more time Turbo, I have owned almost all types of large diesels (Nissan and Toyota) and each extra dollar spent on the turbo is well spent. As said above spend some time and check them out for yourself .
You will never look back.If you tow the difference is huge.
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Follow Up By: brucer - Tuesday, Sep 07, 2004 at 11:39

Tuesday, Sep 07, 2004 at 11:39
I've had both versions of the 100 series-forget the non-Turbo its hopelessly underpowered and worse than the 80 series because its much heavier-but don't expect to go off road with the Turbo.
Front clearance is hopeless and the CV joint boots are easily holed.
The ideal would be the standard model,solid front axle with Turbo engine.
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