GU split rims
Submitted: Tuesday, Sep 07, 2004 at 17:31
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Austravel
Hi,
Why would you change from split rims to one piece (tubless). Am having trouble justifing spending the $1k to change. Are there great benefits??
Reply By: Davoe - Tuesday, Sep 07, 2004 at 17:56
Tuesday, Sep 07, 2004 at 17:56
They look better,come in wider styles and if you arnt aware of the potential danger then tyre changes could be hazardous with splitties. Splitties are the only way to go if you want to run heavy duty tyres and expect to have to regulary fix punctures
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, Sep 07, 2004 at 18:11
Tuesday, Sep 07, 2004 at 18:11
Why on earth are one piece rims costing you $1000? Sunnys are $100ea for 16inch..
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Follow Up By: Utemad - Tuesday, Sep 07, 2004 at 18:43
Tuesday, Sep 07, 2004 at 18:43
or $55 for 15in.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, Sep 07, 2004 at 20:42
Tuesday, Sep 07, 2004 at 20:42
$45 if you
shop around :)
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Follow Up By: Member - 'Lucy' - Tuesday, Sep 07, 2004 at 22:47
Tuesday, Sep 07, 2004 at 22:47
$95 fitted and balanced at Kevin Donellins, Oakleigh,
Melbourne
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Follow Up By: Austravel - Wednesday, Sep 08, 2004 at 08:00
Wednesday, Sep 08, 2004 at 08:00
True, but I need 6, even at 5 plus tyres thats over $1k. 15in are half the price of 16's.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Wednesday, Sep 08, 2004 at 09:56
Wednesday, Sep 08, 2004 at 09:56
Tires alone will be a grand.
Rims should not cost you more than $90ea for 6 of them.
and if you buy all together you should get a better deal again.
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Follow Up By: Austravel - Wednesday, Sep 08, 2004 at 10:16
Wednesday, Sep 08, 2004 at 10:16
Ageed, but with
mine traded it makes it a little over a grand. Didn't explain this as the problem I had in my mind was to justify changing an already good set of rims with something else. Though from the comments sounds like it's the best way to go.
Thanks
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Reply By: Member- Peter & Mrs Peter, Lez - Tuesday, Sep 07, 2004 at 19:07
Tuesday, Sep 07, 2004 at 19:07
So you can run tubeless tyres, Split rims are not the easiest to balance properly. A plug repair is much easier than pulling splits apart. Tubes perish, the piece of the split rim that you remove can rust in solid if you dont remove now and again, boy what fun. I cant think of too many reasons to use split rims IMHO.
Cheers Peter
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Follow Up By: Michael - Wednesday, Sep 08, 2004 at 08:03
Wednesday, Sep 08, 2004 at 08:03
There is only one good thing about split rims, if you get a small nail punchure, the tyre goes down immediately, more than likely saving the tyre. I have ruined more that one tyre because tubeless tyres go down very slow. Sometimes the destruction of the tyre lets you know you have a puncture,(driving on a uninflated tyre) Nothing else good about them, considering all the tyre removal gear you can buy now.
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Reply By: pjd - Tuesday, Sep 07, 2004 at 19:31
Tuesday, Sep 07, 2004 at 19:31
you can fix a nail hole puncture in 1 to 2 minutes with tubless & with split rims it could take 15 + minutes if your rim is rusty & you have to carry spare tubes incase the tube is beond repair
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Follow Up By: Michael - Wednesday, Sep 08, 2004 at 07:58
Wednesday, Sep 08, 2004 at 07:58
not to mention a pair of black hands when you have finished struggling with split rims....
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Reply By: Boeing - Tuesday, Sep 07, 2004 at 21:12
Tuesday, Sep 07, 2004 at 21:12
Austravel, Do a search, there is about a thousand threads on the pros and cons of one piece and splits.
Regards
Mark
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Reply By: Frankenstein - Tuesday, Sep 07, 2004 at 21:50
Tuesday, Sep 07, 2004 at 21:50
One simple answer: Sand Driving
Once you start to deflate split rims for sand driving they tend to spin on the rim. this rips the tube to bits and instant flat tyre.
What sort of one piece rims are you looking at? factory originals?
Highway tyres had a set of 4 rims and MT tyres for $660 when I viseted last. These were new rims with remould tyres.
Cheers
Alan
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Reply By: Austravel - Wednesday, Sep 08, 2004 at 08:03
Wednesday, Sep 08, 2004 at 08:03
I was after genuine as I know GQ's have a real drama with vibration at approx 80klm with after market rims. Was told up until 2002 on the GU's it's the same.
Has anyone with a GU found the same problem??
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Wednesday, Sep 08, 2004 at 09:59
Wednesday, Sep 08, 2004 at 09:59
GQs dont all have a drama with viabrations.
Mine had it at 60ks new panhard bushes and its sweet now. I'm using ROH Sunnys, same as 99.9% of GQ's out there.
Its luck of the draw on the vibs, some have it some dont, no matter what tires or rims you use.
When you get a balance done on your hoops, goto Bob Jane I think it is, they do a Gold, Silver, or Bronze level of balance (why I dont know - shouldnt they do their best anyway?) at different prices.
The other advantage over genuine rims is replacement cost if you do bend one.
YMMV
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Follow Up By: Austravel - Wednesday, Sep 08, 2004 at 10:20
Wednesday, Sep 08, 2004 at 10:20
Thanks, didn't realise it was only some GQ's, I had major trouble with
mine and was given the impression most others did. Knowing this I'll probably give it a go with new ones. I've been quoted $110 per rim new for 16in.
Also noticed in some other threads that some of the GQ's had 16in, I thought that they all had 15. Would the GQ's 16in fit the GU? If so what are they 16 x ?
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Follow Up By: NissanofOld - Wednesday, Sep 08, 2004 at 10:38
Wednesday, Sep 08, 2004 at 10:38
GQ and GU rims are exactly the same size (for the 16" rims that is), offset etc. I moved my GQ alloys to my GU with no drama. This is one area where Nissan has played a sensible game, by maintaining the same wheel stud pattern and offset since the G60 series (even though they have gone from 15" to 16" dia). It'll be interesting to see if the new model has the same stud pattern and offset, though it appears that it may come in a 17" diameter.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Wednesday, Sep 08, 2004 at 14:02
Wednesday, Sep 08, 2004 at 14:02
Later model GQ's had bigger brakes, thus the 16inch rims. The 3 spoke alloys I think are 7inch wide, but could be wrong, I priced them once at high 300's EACH! Didnt ask specs after asking price!
Same as late model GU's (4.8 and TD6 etc) have bigger brakes, thus cant fit 15 inch rims.
The interesting thing is 15inch tires are that much cheaper for same size, it would be worth trying! Then going to 17inch rims, price goes up again!
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Follow Up By: Austravel - Wednesday, Sep 08, 2004 at 14:16
Wednesday, Sep 08, 2004 at 14:16
Thanks Truckster,
The thing that's concerning me the most is spending the dough and finding out that like my previous GQ that wheel shimmy is bad at high speed. Guess I'll have to make up my mind to give aftermarket a go or stick with split rims as second hand geniune rims are pretty dear.
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Follow Up By: NissanofOld - Wednesday, Sep 08, 2004 at 15:35
Wednesday, Sep 08, 2004 at 15:35
The three spoke GQ alloy rims are 8". The GU 3.0lt can fit 15" rims (same as GQ) as a friend has a second set of rims and tyres from a GQ. The brake caliper clearance is around 1/4", but has never fouled yet. The 4.8lt from memory has bigger rotors, but didn't think that was the case for the 4.2 lt and 3.0lt are different.
When the GQ first came out with the 16" rims, it didn't take all that long before decent tyres became available and the last time I priced BFG ATs, the 16" were cheaper than the 15". My aftermarket alloy rims don't exhibit any shimmy, unless they simply go out of balance, nor have others I know with factory alloys experienced this. The factory alloys at my last check, weren't priced too badly compared to aftermarket.
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