Gear Box Temperatures
Submitted: Tuesday, Sep 07, 2004 at 20:10
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Wetty (W.A)
Howdy all.
Can anyone tell me roughly how hot a 1996, 3.1 turbo Jackaroo gear box should be running? I had bearing failure in the transfer case and was told that the box was designed to run between 90 and 100 deg C. I am a bit concerned at this considering both gear and transfer cases are alloy. The last thing I want is to be replacing the whole box as the bearing replacement was $2,000!!!
Thanks
Andrew
Reply By: Martyn (WA) - Tuesday, Sep 07, 2004 at 20:46
Tuesday, Sep 07, 2004 at 20:46
Wetty,
I'll throw my oar in here for fear of being shot down, the bearings you have installed will take the temp it's the lubricant that breaks down and causes the lubrication issues leading to the bearing failures we run bearings in our machines regularly at around the 90 degree c mark but I run a synthetic oil. The cut off point that I start to get concerned is around the 120 degree C mark. The biggest issue then is if the outer casing is cooled this causes the bearings to lose the inner clearance because the inner race is still at the higher temp. I towed my camper trailer down a soft sand beach from
Cervantes to
Lancelin, checked the temp with an infra red temp gun, overall the temp was about the 100 degree mark, but I run a Royal Purple synthetic oil in both the gearbox and transfer case.
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Reply By: Moz - Tuesday, Sep 07, 2004 at 20:49
Tuesday, Sep 07, 2004 at 20:49
G'day Wetty,
Just curious, what are you concerned about?
Do you think 90-100 degrees is too high?
Moz
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Follow Up By: Wetty (W.A) - Tuesday, Sep 07, 2004 at 21:36
Tuesday, Sep 07, 2004 at 21:36
Hi Moz.
Not being familiar with how hot gearboxes run, I was concerned when the box in my Jackaroo melted the spacers between the transfer selector lever and the box itself. I was even more suprised that when I poured
water onto the box, it boiled off. . . . . so much for following the users manual and running the recommended oil grade. (me thinks that there must be some arrangement between oil companies and GMH)
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Reply By: GO_OFFROAD - Wednesday, Sep 08, 2004 at 10:36
Wednesday, Sep 08, 2004 at 10:36
80-100 deg c running temps are the norm, and the first thing to let go is normally the seals, which most today are designed to run a max operating temp of 120-130 deg C.
Auto's run up to 100-120C towing on hills, and are mostly alloy case, so I wouldnt be to concerned about your alloy boxes in your Jack.
Like everything, run the best oil you can afford, a nd change it as required.
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Reply By: alexjw - Wednesday, Sep 08, 2004 at 16:57
Wednesday, Sep 08, 2004 at 16:57
I would suggest if you are melting mounts you have greater problems than worrying about the oil temp, sounds like you are not running any oil. I run a turbo 400 behind a 6.2D Chev and operating temps are generally around 80c (summer) sometimes push to 100 when towing heavy loads up Greenmount.
If you are concerned about oil temperatures or other fluids contact shell or other manufactures (probably over east) and they will be able to tell you the breakdown temperatures of their various products.
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