Replacement clutch for GU Patrol

So you're suggesting that those who own a 3.0lt Patrol can expect, at best, 70,000 km before the engine expires? This is evidence that you have researched and documented from all of the 3.0lt Patrols sold in Australia and around the world?

You miss the word "SOME". Its the 4th word on the 3rd line. and it was 160k but the 1 went bush somehow. Cause I aint heard of any going beyond that yet.

Ive seen enough GU 3.0's on about 10 forums that I check to know I wouldnt have one if it was Given to me FREE. YMMV on this.

There are that many motors blowing up at round 70k klms its not funny. Clutches, Air cond pullys, turbos, etc.. No thanks.

Some people love the 3.0.. usually those who have one and pray it wont happen to them. But some on this board wrote me off stating "I HAVE ONE NOTHING WRONG WITH IT.. blah blah blah", to within 4 mths theirs blowing up.

Theres been 5 in our club alone. One picked his up from dealer after repair of new engine, drove 1klm to Toyota dealer who he already had done a deal with, and picked up his 100 series. He had to cancel 3 planned treks due to the thing dying, and time required to fit out the 100. He is actually on this board, or was.

YMMV...

No, I did not miss the word 'some'. However, one could quite easily interpret what you said to mean that 'some are lasting up to 70,000km, others only 60,000km', implying that this is about the upper limit for the engines. Knowing your dislike of the 3.0lt, it's not necessarily unreasonable to read your statement this way.

No matter how many forums you visit and how many ‘horror stories’ you hear and report, it's still an unknown factor as to what percentage these incidents figure in the overall number of 3.0lt Patrols sold in Australia. Also, how many of these ‘horror stories’ are repeats, by the same people who also frequent the same forums?

You’re saying that five Patrols in your club have had their engines blow up? What was the vintage of the five Patrols you refer to and the one owner that had to defer three trips; was it due to the engine blowing up three times? What about the other members, or are there only the five 3.0lt Patrols in the club?

Despite acknowledged problems with at least the early Patrols, at the end of the day, most of your posts about the 3.0lt Patrol seem to be aimed at making those who own one feel bad about their purchase. What a truly sad outlook towards your fellow 4WDrivers.

Noting that nearly every post in each thread you post in, you like to argue with people, so I'll bite this last time, then you can play on your own.

Read into it what you will.

I bet all those owners wished someone would have warned them about their $50,000+ investment was going to blow up. I sure would. Thats a lot of money for some people, and the trade in value on them is 1/2 of squat.. so they are in a lose lose situation.

The other point is that MOST people have had engines replaced, but there have been a few told BAD LUCK.. heres the bill... $15,000 later.

Yes there are some in our club, but not as many as 4.2s, most have wised up, and sold and bought 4.2 or 100 series. Says a lot for a nissan club.

Vintage of them was 3.0 GU's. Dont really care what vintage. The fact remains that they should not have died. Holes in pistons, turbos etc etc.

Or should I float it in cotton wool, say oh bother they are wonderful, like others are starting to do on other forums cause people are too lasy to search for the history of them.

Finally... I would not have one if it was given to me..

DWYLIDGAF.

Only 2 months left on warranty. I am yet to talk to nissan australia. It is currently being assessed by area manager?
Thanks for your reply

Are you suggesting that 70,000 km is 'about right' for the longevity of the 3.0lt Patrol clutch, or are you referring to the fact that it's not covered under warranty?

If the former, I gather that you have done extensive research to categorically prove that the clutches last no more than 70,000 km. I would think that all 3.0lt Patrol owners in Australia and around the world would welcome your evidence, with which to take Nissan to task on this issue.

Well before you get on your high horse about your 3.0 pootrol, lets not put the cart in front of it.

Let them pull the clutch out, and make sure the oil from between the 2 parts hasnt leaked out around the cracks they get around the crank bolt holes making it slip.

If its worn out at 70k I wouldnt be surprised either, but how about we gather some facts first.

Typical disparaging response, with the usual childish name calling thrown in for good measure. In this day and age of MP3s and the like, you'd never imagine you'd hear a broken record so frequently.

grow up mate, and see if you can stick to topic, your "poor old me" is growing tiresome.........

One of the blokes I and darren 4wd with had a 3.0 GU.

He was told by his local nissan dealer "You should be happy with 50,000klms" out of his clutch. Mate occasionally towed a car trailer with a car on it.

You work it out for yourself NOO.... Also try searching the archives, there have been fair few people with around that many klms on their car.

I suppose you would have done extensive research to categorically prove that the clutches last more than 70,000 km?

Never said I've done any research, simply clarifying what was meant by an introductory statement earlier on. That said, I've know vehicles where the clutch has lasted only about 20,000 km and others where they've gone over 300,000 km.

Even you would have to admit that much of it has to do with how the clutch is used. Many people just ride and/or slip the clutch constantly, not even knowing that they are doing it, and then wonder why it doesn't last.

That's why there's no warranty on a clutch, same as brakes. Again, it's how you use drive. The brakes on my Patrol have minimal wear after 76,000km, others are lucky if their brakes last 20,000km.

So when i post about my experiences, you call them disparaging comments, because its not what you wish to hear, now you have posted your experiences, what shoudl we call them?

A copout maybe, wishy washy I didnt , I wasnt, some do some dont, i didnt research, but I can comment freely about the subject ramblings maybe...........

That's not the case at all. I simply asked what you were referring to when you said 'Sounds about right'. Was it that you thought it was 'about right' that a Patrol clutch would only last 70,000 km, or something else?

You never answered that question, but went on about 'high horses' and 'pootrols'. You don't own a 3.0lt Patrol, but are always ready to give your views on how worthless they are. Everyone here knows of your low opinion of the 3.0lt Patrol (and the other models by the sounds of it), and I think some do tire of hearing the same person always bagging the vehicle.

While you sometimes provide additional comments or ideas, they always seem to be prefaced, or concluded, with a disparaging remark about the Patrol. If you have nothing good to say about the Patrol, say nothing; there are many others here who provide as informative, but less insulting commentry.

"Typical disparaging response, with the usual childish name calling thrown in for good measure. In this day and age of MP3s and the like, you'd never imagine you'd hear a broken record so frequently"

If that wasnt the case at all, then why do I see no question mark in your post, if you now say you were simply asking something?

Or did you mean your leading question, so you could sprout off about research etc...........

As for not commenting on 3.0 pootrols, or anything else, sorry, but Im not going to edit my posts around what you wish to hear.

If you dont like it, dont read it....pretty simple.....

If you have a look at my very first FollowUp, you may be able to pick the question mark. But then again, it appears that you have your well formed agenda and nothing is likely to sway you from that. And so on that note, I won't carry on with this debate any more. Have a good one.

NissanofOld "And so on that note, I won't carry on with this debate any more."

Wow, we may need to print and frame that one..... ;-)

My series 1 has done over 205,000 ks and still has the original clutch. Heaps of towing heavy camper trailers too !
Sounds sus to me - just 70
ks is nothing for these clutches.

Peter,
Mines up to 190,000, but I have also heard stories of them doing much less. When mine does need changing I will be going for a Daikin, spoke with a local rep' and all good news.
rolande

Mates GU 4.2TD clutch went at 40,000+k's and was told by service manager at Nissan in FTgully that the nissan clutches are very ordinary but they still won't wear a warranty claim above 7000kms. He recomended a Daikin.

Leroy

Does the TD6 also have the same flywheel.

I have oil leaking out or my one year only 4.2 from the front of the gearbox. Thought it might be the rear seal and am not looking forward to another frustrating warranty experience.

Sean