ADI Fridge comparison test results ?

peter, look back a few threads.. a link was posted to the test results and how the tests were conducted

no rolande,
looking to see how a test, you obviously believe is accurate, can give a result for an Engel that is almost half the power consumption stated by Engel in their own advertising brochures, and half the power consumption mentioned by other Engel owners on this forum.

The ADI test results indicate that the results are definately not relevant in any real life scenario.

Mainey,
Not saying that these are be-all figures, just that in controlled conditions, with side by side comparison, most fridges will beat the reefer, (liemack), hands down. The one mentioned above in previous posts set out to belittle anyone who didn't believe his favoured Reefer was the best. Suspect he has something to do with the company, despite denials. Look up name under history to see what I mean.
rolande

Cocka

have you read the test and were the testers were independent?

Sean

yep, the insulation factor is part of the equation, But the results of the test by ADI are very much indicative of what one can expect for power use!

the tests were carried out in a environmetal chamber covering a temperature range that could be expected to average type conditions....

we can get a technical and get carried away with what if's and buts, how-ever that the performance figures given in the test results are average for average conditions and would not dramaticaly change a manufactures standing if the test was carried at, lets say, for 48hrs at 40 ambient

No to that Sean but 4WD Monthly did a comparo a while back, I'll see if I can dig that out & give you a look at their results.

see post 15611 for link to test results and how it was done

4WD Monthly test is not a test it is rubbish
now so far out of date to be useless which it was when published

SunMan, why is it rubbish?

due to the methodology and the period of the test
was totally worthless and waste of time
the test was setup to make one poor fridge look good to suck in an advertiser
what you call in the business an advertorial

do you have refrigeration knowledge?

SunMan I'm interested in your comments.
How would you consider it best to set up a test comparing one fridge against another - how would you do it and what do you think is the important thing to achieve in such a test ???

and where did you get these Facts from SunMan.

Fact!! or Fact???

Keep trying and one day we might all get to the truth.

sean

Hi Guys,

Thought I'd add my 2c worth!! I have been watching these various fridge debates for a while, and it doesn't take long to see who is throwing up a smokescreen, and confusing the issues with Bull#$#$!!!! 80L consumes 85A - how was that arrived at???

OK FACT, I have an 80L Evacool (yeah ok I already know is less than 80l due to compressor!) fitted to the Nissan with 2 x 40w Solar panels. Here are some FACTS - as measured and as confirmed (by use) on a trip through the GRR and Kimberleys!!

The Evacool (Danfoss BD35 compressor and controls) runs at approx 2.4amps in economy mode, and 3.5amps in boost mode (measured Metrix 52 DMM) The duty cycle on setting 1 (2 degrees celcius) at approx 36 degreees ambient, and packed in the back of the nissan is 20-30 minutes on per hour (take worst case as 50%) therefore in economy mode, equals 2.5A times 12hours (30 amphere hours!).

Solar array produces approx 24 - 36 amphours per day (measured at between 4 - 6 amps per hour at 13.0 v between 0900 - 1500, add some more if you want for the early/later times). Say lower figure of 25 amphere hour per day.

Battery used is a standard 55amphere hour capacity deep cycle.

Running it to 50% discharged (dmm (open cct voltage) = 12.25v and SG = 1190 (also where fridge turns off due low voltage) takes 5 days!!

therefore the fridge MUST only use 5 amphere hours a day MORE than the solar panels produce!! My calculations make that approx 30 ampere hours per day for the Evacool....that is NOWHERE near 85amps!!!!

For your comments..............

Yes,
also indicating that the ADI test results are not correct......

would like to hear from anyone with an Engel (circa ~2002) that gets 1.6 a/h power consumption under the same test conditions eg; 50 degree's with a mid ambient of 25, the fridge would be running continiously and at 2.8 a/h.

I reckon one should look at the maximum continuous load (current) at maximum running time. In the north during summer with the fridge in the car the motor will be running more often than not. Estimate a 50 % duty cycle if you want to use the fridge as a fridge(not as a freezer) and you won't be dissapointed.

My waeco 40ltr draws more that 4 amps running regardless of the temperature setting or the temp outside. It will never draw more or less unless I alter the speed of the motor. The total current draw for the day will depend on the number of hours the compressor needs to run to maintain the setting via the thermostat.

I tink thay are all about the same cooling power but those units with more insulation will require shorter running times but they are far larger in physical size.

Horses for courses I guess.

OOPS! SORRY, managed to put this on twice...my fault....

Why not ask Australian Defence Industries for the test criteria.

If you don't think the ifo is correct go by the info the manufacturer provides and then add a bit and you will be right.

Brett H (QLD)
'Australian Defence Industries' involvement was only as the supplier of the premises, as stated by others; it was an 'advertorial' for a fridge manufacturer by a 4x4 magazine, with their own staff doing the tests.

still would have hoped the results would have been be truthfull.
1.6 a/h for Engel is stated NOT to be an honest result by previous posts,
and no one has claimed that their own Engel can get down to match the test results - or any other make for that matter!!!!

Is a case of because it is printed in a magazine it must (not) be true.