Glind Shower - Rub a dub dub...
Submitted: Thursday, Sep 30, 2004 at 10:08
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Member - Chris M (QLD)
Howdy folks,
Well, the glind has been fitted to the truck. I haven't had one of these beauties before, but have used others many a time.
I'm just a little concerned with the way it's been setup. The pump sits on the firewall, the heat exchange sits on a bracket in front of the radiator and cross member. You can see the unit through the grills cut out in the genuine nissan alloy bar. There's around 6 hoses running into and out of the exchange. Those hose rub together, and run past the radiator cross member and other steel brackets etc. Do you think those hoses may rub through on a long 6-8 week trip on corrogations day in day out? Only reason I ask is that when the original mob installed my turbo on the GQ, they left the air con pipe that runs along past the top air box rubbing on the lock clips. 300k's out of
Melbourne and after 1300k's from
brisbane, I hear gas. The pipes had rubbed through, and the was just on the blacktop.
What's your experience. Am I worrying too much or should I grab the old split flexy conduit out and stop the 'rub'.
Thanks!
Chris.
Reply By: Will - Thursday, Sep 30, 2004 at 10:25
Thursday, Sep 30, 2004 at 10:25
Hi Chris, I would be securing those hoses as they will evevtually rub through.
An ounce of prevention now will keep Chris a sweet smelling thing out there.
Will
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Follow Up By: Member - Chris M (QLD) - Thursday, Sep 30, 2004 at 10:26
Thursday, Sep 30, 2004 at 10:26
Boy, aren't you right about that!!! ;-)
Thanks mate, and zippy ties aren't all they are cracked up to be either, I had one rub through on my pyro wire last year as
well.
Will buy some and hop to it!!!
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Reply By: flappan - Thursday, Sep 30, 2004 at 10:54
Thursday, Sep 30, 2004 at 10:54
Secure the bloody things.
I had a hose rob thru an injector line . . . Lucky I didn't blow the Puter up . . .
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Follow Up By: Member - Chris M (QLD) - Thursday, Sep 30, 2004 at 12:34
Thursday, Sep 30, 2004 at 12:34
Amazing how something soft can cause so much destruction!
Thanks mate!
Chris.
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Follow Up By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Thursday, Sep 30, 2004 at 12:42
Thursday, Sep 30, 2004 at 12:42
Sound s like my wife Chris.
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Follow Up By: Member - Chris M (QLD) - Thursday, Sep 30, 2004 at 12:45
Thursday, Sep 30, 2004 at 12:45
Nice one mate!
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Reply By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Thursday, Sep 30, 2004 at 12:54
Thursday, Sep 30, 2004 at 12:54
Chris, As your exchange is mounder in front of your radiator, the hoses probably go through the oval hole on the drivers side radiator support panel. If so, just check that the fitter has a split hose or conduit around the hole so you get no rubbing on the inside of that oval cutout. So , have you tested the hot
water side yet?
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Follow Up By: Member - Chris M (QLD) - Thursday, Sep 30, 2004 at 12:57
Thursday, Sep 30, 2004 at 12:57
Gday mate,
Will do, I think split conduit is the best solution dont you??? I was thinking of using the wider zip ties so theres more surface area for the tie and less chance of a skinnier tight zip tie from rubbing through.
Haven't had a chance to test it yet, tomorrow night! I'll get a temp gauge and measure temps at idle with heat knob all the way round.
Cheers
Chris.
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Follow Up By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Thursday, Sep 30, 2004 at 13:02
Thursday, Sep 30, 2004 at 13:02
i meant mounted,
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Follow Up By: Member - Chris M (QLD) - Thursday, Sep 30, 2004 at 14:13
Thursday, Sep 30, 2004 at 14:13
Figured that mate!
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Reply By: Gordon - Thursday, Sep 30, 2004 at 13:21
Thursday, Sep 30, 2004 at 13:21
Chris,
My experience is that this set up will not be efficient.
With the pump above the exchanger you will have extreme difficulty getting the pump to start as it will allways be dry.
I went through hell until I mounted the exchanger on the firewall, and the pump behind the bumper.
This also had the effect of only having to use one short non-standard heater hose (Falcon from memory) with only the one delivery hose to worry about. I fitted a click connection to the outlet side of the heat exchanger and coupled a short hose to the shower.
Apart from the fact that it probably won't work properly, you are just inviting trouble with those long heater hoses.
Cheers,
Gordon
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Follow Up By: Member - Chris M (QLD) - Thursday, Sep 30, 2004 at 14:14
Thursday, Sep 30, 2004 at 14:14
Gordon,
Thanks mate, I'll give it a run and see what happens. I've been told to run it dry anyway afterwards to stop retaining
water that will go stale over the period of non-use.
I'll give old mate from Glind a call and see what he reckons! Might as
well talk to the expert as
well...
Thanks for the reply mate.
Chris.
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Follow Up By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Thursday, Sep 30, 2004 at 20:11
Thursday, Sep 30, 2004 at 20:11
Hi
Gordon, Do you think in hindsight that a small check valve between the exchange and the pump in its original positions would have fived the problem. You can buy an inline ball check with a very light spring, it would not hinder the flow.. Michael
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Follow Up By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Thursday, Sep 30, 2004 at 20:12
Thursday, Sep 30, 2004 at 20:12
God , spare me,,,, i mean fiXed
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Follow Up By: Member - Chris M (QLD) - Friday, Oct 01, 2004 at 07:51
Friday, Oct 01, 2004 at 07:51
That's a good idea mate. I'm assuming that would prevent the need to prime every time?
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Follow Up By: Gordon - Wednesday, Oct 06, 2004 at 14:17
Wednesday, Oct 06, 2004 at 14:17
Michael,
You are quite right, it probably would work ok and considering I put a check valve in the delivery hose, I can't think why I didn't think to try it.
Having said that though, with my present set up I have eliminated to a great degree the danger of hoses rubbing through and because it now works every time, I won't be tempted to play around with it any more.
Cheers,
Gordon
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Reply By: Gordon - Thursday, Sep 30, 2004 at 16:45
Thursday, Sep 30, 2004 at 16:45
Chris,
I hope it does work ok for you, but what I found was that on my test at home it would self prime and draw from the swimming pool every time, but as soon as I went bush and tried to draw from a
creek (obviously a larger head) it invariably bailed up.
Never had a problem since I changed things around.
Cheers,
Gordon
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Follow Up By: Member - Chris M (QLD) - Thursday, Sep 30, 2004 at 16:55
Thursday, Sep 30, 2004 at 16:55
Thanks mate, I'll have a test run on the weekend...
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Reply By: madcow - Friday, Oct 01, 2004 at 07:32
Friday, Oct 01, 2004 at 07:32
I would cable tie the hoses. If you were concerned with them "rubbing" on anything you could obtain some split conduit and place it over that part of the hose to help protect them. I am interested to see if it is hot off idle but seeing your are in qld it probably will be. The pump seems to be located in a strange location as it can be located just in front of the cruise control on the firewall as you have seen with the pics I sent you not long ago. Mate the boss will love ya for it anyway!
Cheers dave
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Follow Up By: Member - Chris M (QLD) - Friday, Oct 01, 2004 at 07:53
Friday, Oct 01, 2004 at 07:53
I have the DX so I don't have cruise. I'll keep everyone posted as to it's performance.
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Reply By: peter in sa - Saturday, Oct 02, 2004 at 23:59
Saturday, Oct 02, 2004 at 23:59
hi chris had the glind shower fitted to the paj with the heat exchanger bolted to the fire wall and the pump is fitted to the side of the guard next to the air filter ,blody great shower keeps the misses happy any way ,just dont get under the
water straight away you,ll get scoulded when you turn it on enjoy cheer,s peter
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Follow Up By: Member - Chris M (QLD) - Monday, Oct 04, 2004 at 08:39
Monday, Oct 04, 2004 at 08:39
Gday Peter,
Thanks mate! I'll be sure to give it a run this weekend!
Cheers
Chris.
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