2003 jackaroo advice/ information
Submitted: Thursday, Sep 30, 2004 at 19:01
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sean72
G' Day All,
I have recently purchased a 2003 jackaroo 3l turbo diesel and looking for some advice. After talking to some 4wd mates they were saying the oil to use in these engines is lighter than normal and more expensive and harder to find, something to do with the design of the fuel injection system. None of them own a jackaroo( all cuiser boys) so they didn't know what to recommened to use. So if any one has any advice on what to use , the information would be greatly appreciated.
Also the wife is keen on a cargo barrier, to protect the bub, Can any one recommed a certain type and what they're worth??
Cheers
Reply By: Moz - Thursday, Sep 30, 2004 at 20:21
Thursday, Sep 30, 2004 at 20:21
G'day sean72,
We use Castrol Softec, there are equivalents in other brands.
The reason the oil grade is critical is because high pressure oil is
used to fire the injectors.
If the grade is not correct it can cause hard starting and
rough running problems.
As far as a cargo barrier is concerned I am sure Milford would do one.
I got
mine for my 60 cruiser from TJM for about $320 trade.
Cheers
Moz
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Reply By: Gronk - Thursday, Sep 30, 2004 at 20:31
Thursday, Sep 30, 2004 at 20:31
Your gonna hear a lot of different ideas on which oil to use, but suffice to say,the oil needs to be 10w or less . I'm running 10w 40 Castrol Magnatec ,changing every 5,000k's and is running fine. Not many oils out there 10w or less that don't cost the earth (castrol $30-5litres). My jacks a 98 model , so have a 680cca battery(bosch) to get it started ,especially when its a bit cold. Apart from $ if the engine ever dies ,the jackaroo is a great truck and can be had for fairly cheap dollars compared to the others out there
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Reply By: Andrew from TrekTable - Thursday, Sep 30, 2004 at 21:16
Thursday, Sep 30, 2004 at 21:16
Sean,
I have 1998 3l with 160,000km and live in QLD. I've used 15W-40 API CE grade all its life and had no problems at all. I did have problems starting when I had about 40,000km and the dealer insisted on using his oil before agreeing it had nothing to do with oil but was infact a problem with injector seals. After all that, it turns out he only used CD grade oil.
No problems since then.
I would expect in southern states you may need 10W or lower.
Andrew
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Reply By: Will - Friday, Oct 01, 2004 at 07:31
Friday, Oct 01, 2004 at 07:31
Hi Sean72, I think you will be happy with the jackaroo, as mentioned if you don't use the correct grade of oil you can have starting problems.
I have a list of Holden recommended oils for the Jack, email me if you are interested and I will send it to you.
Will
byersfam @ iprimus com au
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Reply By: Savvas - Friday, Oct 01, 2004 at 07:55
Friday, Oct 01, 2004 at 07:55
Sean,
Click here for a good reference on the topic.
Cheers,
Savvas
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Follow Up By: sean72 - Friday, Oct 01, 2004 at 10:10
Friday, Oct 01, 2004 at 10:10
thanks Savvas, a very good attachment.
I was surprised penrite listed there oppositions products.
cheers
sean
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Follow Up By: Savvas - Saturday, Oct 02, 2004 at 12:15
Saturday, Oct 02, 2004 at 12:15
It's actually a Holden technical bulletin that they have there which explains why the opposition products are shown.
However Penrite didn't have to put it up in its entireity, so full marks to them for being totally upfront and not trying to swing things to their advantage.
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Reply By: Jayson - Friday, Oct 01, 2004 at 09:44
Friday, Oct 01, 2004 at 09:44
Sean,
Dad's had one since new in 1998. Goes like the clappers, diesel and all.
Check out the link
http://www.recalls.gov.au/search.cfm
uncheck all boxes except motor vehicle and enter the keyword "jackaroo" and you will get two hits for recalls Holden will do free of charge if your car hasn't already had them done. The o-ring one is the most critical.
Dad put a second battery in in parallel and it makes a tremendous difference to starting. He also uses the thin Castrol Magnetic oil.
Cheers
Jayson
Karratha WA
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Follow Up By: sean72 - Friday, Oct 01, 2004 at 10:23
Friday, Oct 01, 2004 at 10:23
thanks Jayson,
Another good site that i didn't know about, i'm lucky my vehicle does't fit into any of those build dates.
cheers
saen
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Reply By: morgan - Sunday, Oct 03, 2004 at 08:46
Sunday, Oct 03, 2004 at 08:46
I have just discovered this site and now feel a glimmer of hope regarding my 2001 Jack SE 3.0l TD starting problems - local Holden dealer has run out of ideas. Bought second hand in Feb2004 but then still under warranty with 56km. It takes what seems to be an age to start in the mornings and I fear for the starter motor! However, once started, it behaves perfectly for the rest of the day - until left overnight - temperature at night seems to have no effect. Have changed the oil 3 times, including the $$$ Castrol stuff - no change to starting. Accidently discovered that if I
park it nose down on a slight slope overnight, it fires straightaway in the morning - even with ice on the windscreen........... Dealer checked in sump for leak in injector oil pick up and replaced a seal in throttle body. No improvement. We are desparate for ideas and I will buy a box of beer for anyone who can offer the solution (I said I am desperate!)
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Follow Up By: Member - DOZER- Sunday, Oct 03, 2004 at 15:10
Sunday, Oct 03, 2004 at 15:10
Hi
Did someone mention a box of beer??
You have described all the symptoms of an air leak in the fuel system that allows fuel to run back to
tank from filter. Usually a cracked filter housing or a dicky seal on the filter itself, having the
tank higher when nose down stops the back flow. When you crank for ages, it is sucking the fuel back up. Try replacing a piece of suction fuel hose with clear nylex, and in the morning you will see if the fuel has disappeared.
As to any other
places it could be leaking, ask yourself...what has been worked on in the fuel system just before i noticed this problem...
Andrew
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Reply By: Member - DOZER- Sunday, Oct 03, 2004 at 15:11
Sunday, Oct 03, 2004 at 15:11
If you cant find the source of the air leak, putting a 12v electric fuel pump at the
tank will supply fuel instead of the motor having to suck it in the morning...might be cheaper than a new starter...
Andrew
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Follow Up By: morgan - Sunday, Oct 03, 2004 at 18:31
Sunday, Oct 03, 2004 at 18:31
Dozer,
Many thanks for your suggestion - it makes a lot of sense. Will check it out and let yall know the result (beer is a promise if you are right!)
I suspect that there has been so much discussed about oil-related Jackaroo problems that it is the first thing the experts consider, rather than going back to basic principles like the fuel
tank above the possible air leak ( I am no expert and did not consider this - my other car is a 1971 MGB which has a 12V pump and I certainly know when it is not working properly).
Ward
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Reply By: morgan - Saturday, Oct 30, 2004 at 05:26
Saturday, Oct 30, 2004 at 05:26
Jakaroo 3.0 TD starting problem resolved - thanks Dozer but no beer! We tried the clear plastic tubes to and from the fuel filter - no loss of fuel BUT on turning over motor, noticed oil and air bubbles in the engine side fuel tube.
Dealer adjusted valve gaps (3 needed this) but no change. Holden Tech Assist in Melb finally took interest and recommended 100psi pressure test which revealed leaking injector sleeves - this is not supposed to be possible according to the lads in Melb - who wanted the sleeves sent immediately for testing by them when told they failed the test.
Anyway, back on the road and with an engine which now starts! Many thanks all round
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