Your choice of Long Range Fuel Tank...Which one???

Submitted: Tuesday, Oct 05, 2004 at 10:23
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Gday all,

Been poking my nose around for a larger tank to replace the sub tank on the GU. (currently 32L).

Obviously there are many on the forum with long range tanks. Are there any disadvantages? I could only see advantages as fuel is lighter than water so an extra 50L won't really matter. I could pick up good cheap fuel before heading out into the sticks and avoid some of the $1.20/$1.40 stops if I knew where to stop next. And it's just one less thing to worry about.

What are your experiences? Will I be able to utilise the existing sender unit for the new tank and will the gauge in the car operate as normal, just take longer to go down when pumping across. And finally, will the super slow pump be ok running for longer pumping an extra 50 L across?

Thanks again for the comments!

Cheers

Chris.
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Reply By: mikeyandmary - Tuesday, Oct 05, 2004 at 10:40

Tuesday, Oct 05, 2004 at 10:40
Hi Chris,

I don't know about nissans so no comments there. On the larger tank...

A long range tank is great for vastly increasing the range of the vehicle. However, because of the high initial cost of the tank and installation, it takes a LONG time to make up the cost through not having to fill up at the more expensive places.

We fitted a 180L tank (overkill maybe) to a petrol troopy. Without the tank we had 400-450km range. With the tank we had up to 1500km range. We bought the tank so that we could do some decent trips. The fuel savings were a bonus.

Also, we found that even when both tanks were full, there was no noticeable difference in power or acceleration due to the extra weight. Then again, troopys weigh a heap to start with!!!

Have fun...
Michael
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Follow Up By: Member - Chris M (QLD) - Tuesday, Oct 05, 2004 at 11:06

Tuesday, Oct 05, 2004 at 11:06
Thanks mate!

I didn't really intend on utilising cheaper fuel to pay of the tank, but just keeping each trip a little cheaper. If I were to fit a 70 litre in place of the 32, I'd have a total of 165L so that would get me around a 1,400k range.

Did it hang down low etc?
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Reply By: DARREN - Tuesday, Oct 05, 2004 at 14:56

Tuesday, Oct 05, 2004 at 14:56
Hi Chris,

I am suprised Leroy has responded to this yet as he usually sits and reads to forum all day.

My limited experience with LR tanks was last year on a Cape York trip, Leroy hads one in his rodeo which relied upon the original holden brackets. The brackets failed as they simply weren't designed for the extra weight and he had to hold it up with a tie down and limp home (fortunately it was on the way back anyway). I think aftermarket stuff sometimes does not have adequate R & D. I have a strong aversion to any modifications that may significantly reduce reliability.

Regards

Darren
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Follow Up By: mikeyandmary - Tuesday, Oct 05, 2004 at 15:06

Tuesday, Oct 05, 2004 at 15:06
Darren,

Was this a replacement tank or an auxiliary tank on the rodeo. Auxiliary tanks usually come with their own mounting brackets and fittings. Not wanting to reduce reliability was the main reason I went for an auxiliary tank rather than replacing the main one.
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Follow Up By: DARREN - Tuesday, Oct 05, 2004 at 15:15

Tuesday, Oct 05, 2004 at 15:15
It was a replacement main. Sspeaking of clearance, it was pretty woeful. Not sure of make or details but am sure Leroy will add to this.
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Follow Up By: Leroy - Tuesday, Oct 05, 2004 at 16:43

Tuesday, Oct 05, 2004 at 16:43
Yeh it was a replacement tank from Long Range Automotive. They blamed the Holden bracket....Holden blamed the long range tank....need I say more. The tank also cracked at the front bracket as it took all the weight when the back one let go. Lucky it happened on the way home (near Musgrave) as Darren mentioned as it could of been a real show stopper.
Spoke to the local mechanic in weipa and he was not a fan of longrange tanks and said he had seen many that crack. Factory ones are small but he says you cant beat'em.
On a side note a club member recently had a long range tank fitted in place of the reserve on a Patrol and the transfer pump stuffed up around the centre of Oz. Diagnosed as metal filings in the tank stuffed the pump.

Leroy
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Reply By: mikeyandmary - Tuesday, Oct 05, 2004 at 15:03

Tuesday, Oct 05, 2004 at 15:03
For a 180L tank it sat really well, didn't affect clearance at all. Being an auxiliary tank, it went in where the spare tyre used to be.
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Follow Up By: Member - Chris M (QLD) - Wednesday, Oct 06, 2004 at 13:25

Wednesday, Oct 06, 2004 at 13:25
Thanks mate!
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Reply By: Willykj - Tuesday, Oct 05, 2004 at 18:20

Tuesday, Oct 05, 2004 at 18:20
Hi Chris,

I have a 1999 Jackaroo & fitted an additional aux "Long Ranger"( ARB sells them) fuel tank which holds 60 litres - gives me 145 lites all up. It has been on the vehicle for over 3 years & I have done many outback trips - including the Kimberley/Pilbara & 8 weeks to Cape York recently.

The tank has been great for these trips and I have had no problems at all.

On the Jackaroo you need to pump the fuel to the main tank when required. They install a switch on the dash & also the existing fuel guage reads both tanks - there is a switch on the dash to choose which tank you want a reading on.

I would have no hesitation in recommedning them.

Willy
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Follow Up By: Member - Chris M (QLD) - Wednesday, Oct 06, 2004 at 13:27

Wednesday, Oct 06, 2004 at 13:27
Willy,

Thanks mate. It's the same with the GU, the fuel get's pumped from the sub to the main! Did they feel that the pump was designed to run for longer periods without a prob?

Cheers

Chris.
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Follow Up By: D-Jack - Wednesday, Oct 06, 2004 at 17:04

Wednesday, Oct 06, 2004 at 17:04
Willy

Wow man, I didn't know there was any other option beside replacing the main tank with a 125L of thereabouts. Where exactly did the aux tank get mounted? Did it affect clearance? was it susceptable to under body damage? How much did it cost? Do they still make them? Any other info because they seem to want $1100 most places for equipment and installation of the 125L replacement. Is your's a TD or petrol? Any Ideas as to how much actual useable fuel you are left with (ie does the pump empty the tank fully or is 5l or so always left in there)

Thanks

D-Jack
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Follow Up By: Willykj - Wednesday, Oct 06, 2004 at 19:54

Wednesday, Oct 06, 2004 at 19:54
Hi Chris & D-Jack,

I have run the pump many many times to pump the full load to the main tank without any problems. To pump a full load takes about 15/20 minutes.

D-Jack - The aux tank is mounted under the rear floor on the drivers side. It does not interfere with anything - they run the handbrake cable in a channel through the unit. THis is no loss of clearance. I have been to Kimberley/Pilbara/Cape York - including all National Parks & the tank has no physical damage.

Cost was around $1,100 & they are still listed in the ARB catalogue.

Mine is a 3.5L petrol. Not sure how fuel is left after pumping - but cant be very much. A couple of times I have pumped it till no fuel for the pump to pump.

I am extremely happy with my unit & I use the aux tank all the time. I live in Newcastle & fill both tanks when price is right & then use both tanks up.

Willy
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Reply By: GOB & denny vic member - Tuesday, Oct 05, 2004 at 18:56

Tuesday, Oct 05, 2004 at 18:56
goodday chris
i have a long range tank 75l in my gu its great didnt affect clearance (sorry replaced subtank )uses same pump and gauge no problems at this time its been in 6 mths Long Range Automotive Lilydale Vic if you want i can get phone tomorrow iwent with these guys as they had a display at wandin .quality musnt be to bad as they export all around the world (when i was there they were busy filling a container for France including tanks for the long range desert race)

steve
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Follow Up By: Member - Chris M (QLD) - Wednesday, Oct 06, 2004 at 13:29

Wednesday, Oct 06, 2004 at 13:29
Gday mate!

Thanks for the reply. What did the 75L tank set you back roundabout? It takes about 30 minutes for the 32L to pump out so the 75 must take hours!

I'm in QLD obviously, but heading down to Melbourne end of November. Why the heck not, throw me their number if you have access by mem mess!

Cheers mate,

Chris.
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Follow Up By: Glenn (VIC) - Wednesday, Oct 06, 2004 at 17:00

Wednesday, Oct 06, 2004 at 17:00
Gooday Chris,

If you are coming to Melbourne, have a look at Brown Davis.

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Reply By: Member - John - Thursday, Oct 07, 2004 at 23:59

Thursday, Oct 07, 2004 at 23:59
Chris, if coming to Melbourne, DON"T give Brown Davis a look in. From personal experience, three of four Brown Davis tanks that we had installed, split. Was on the Gunbarrel/CSR a few years ago. the arrogant owner of Brown Davis was something to be seen and heard. Just my two cents worth.
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Follow Up By: Member - John - Friday, Oct 08, 2004 at 00:03

Friday, Oct 08, 2004 at 00:03
Chris. also endorse GOB's comments re Long Range Automotive in Lilydale, have dealt with them, exceelent service and product.
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Follow Up By: Member - Chris M (QLD) - Friday, Oct 08, 2004 at 06:20

Friday, Oct 08, 2004 at 06:20
Thanks mate!
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