want some input on sand tyres people

Submitted: Tuesday, Oct 05, 2004 at 18:17
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gday all i am currently running bfg 35 inch muddies on my gq shorty these are my every day tyres, im looking at getting another set for road and mainly sand driving.
The muddies just alway want to dig to china,my last tyre were bfg all terrians they were pretty good but want to know if there is something better. has anyone had some awesome sand tyres that just glide over the top of boggy sand. any help would be great.
Cheers.
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Reply By: Member - Brian (Gold Coast) - Tuesday, Oct 05, 2004 at 18:26

Tuesday, Oct 05, 2004 at 18:26
Just curious.... do you let the tyres down??? I ask because we run 33" X !2.5" Pro Comp muddies on our LWB GQ and have not had any problems with them at all on sand, mainly on Fraser Island. We run them at 22psi and they "glide" very well. The oher thing we have found is that it is best to use Low Range when in the soft sand.... High Range for the hard packed sand... and not rev the bejaysus outta the motor, rather let the engine do the work so to speak.
Hope this helps.
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Reply By: Chris (W.A.) - Tuesday, Oct 05, 2004 at 19:02

Tuesday, Oct 05, 2004 at 19:02
Hi Anarchy,

I used to have the BFG all-terrains which were fairly good as well. Since I've swapped over to the Cooper Sts I've found the coopers perform better. I think it's due to the more aggressive pattern and lugs sticking out of the sides.

They perform better at 18psi - 40psi.

These are a good alternative if you don't use the muddies as often as you would like.

regards
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, Oct 05, 2004 at 19:18

Tuesday, Oct 05, 2004 at 19:18
There was a thread on this last week.. have a look back a few pages.
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Reply By: brian - Tuesday, Oct 05, 2004 at 21:09

Tuesday, Oct 05, 2004 at 21:09
i have goodyear mtr much better than smooth tread patterns in my view,had no trouble towing a dead cruiser around the bottom third of fraser through the soft sand at the barge.
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Reply By: A Digger - Tuesday, Oct 05, 2004 at 21:45

Tuesday, Oct 05, 2004 at 21:45
IMHO I don't think tread pattern has any significant affect on performance in the sand. This comes from my own experience and that of many I have travelled with, all running different types of tread patterns and brands of tyres.

Tyre pressure is the key. Without going into the physics of the issue, the greater the surface area of the tyre in contact then the vehicle load is shared by this greater contact area thus lowering the kg/square cm or psi or whatever unit of pressure you want to use. Lowering the pressure in the tyre increases the contact area and therefore lowers the contact pressure.

The best analogy is that of a 60 tonne army tank and how it can traverse ground that a much, much lighter wheeled vehicle gets bogged in. Simply because the contact pressure is much lower with the tank due to the mass being spread over a very large contact area between the tank tracks and the ground.
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Follow Up By: Willem - Tuesday, Oct 05, 2004 at 22:16

Tuesday, Oct 05, 2004 at 22:16
I tend to agree with you A Digger. Have just done a Simspon run with agressive tread pattern Cooper STT's. With low tyre pressures on soft sand the truck was unstoppable. Just idled out the dunes at 1800rpm in first high range.
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Follow Up By: Member - Brian (Gold Coast) - Wednesday, Oct 06, 2004 at 07:27

Wednesday, Oct 06, 2004 at 07:27
I agree with A DIGGER and Willem totally... tyre pressures are definitelt the key in sand!!!
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Follow Up By: gonebush - Wednesday, Oct 06, 2004 at 12:32

Wednesday, Oct 06, 2004 at 12:32
I think that is pretty spot on Digger.

I've had various tyres in the sand, on the same vehicle, and can't tell any significant difference. The bigger footprint offered by wider tyres also helps.

Larry
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Reply By: Andrew - Wednesday, Oct 06, 2004 at 09:25

Wednesday, Oct 06, 2004 at 09:25
Tyre pressures tell most of it, however in marginal situations a smoother tread won't cut the surface and break up the crusty bit that helps support a bit more weight. Once the surface is broken (ie chewed up) the tread pattern probably won't make much difference. If you look at dedicated sand tyres like the michelin saharas the lugs are designed to compact the sand more than grab at it.
jmo

regards

A
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