PTO Winches for Landrovers
Submitted: Friday, Oct 08, 2004 at 09:26
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Chumpion
Folks,
Does any one know the rough cost, and a place to purchase, a PTO winch for a Landrover Defender? I have been eyeing off a couple of older units on ebay, but they were for the old Series 1's and 2's.
Mine is a 2003 model.
There doesn't seem to be many
places around these days that do this sort of thing (
well, without going to England!)
Thanks in advance....
Reply By: Rosco - Bris. - Friday, Oct 08, 2004 at 12:00
Friday, Oct 08, 2004 at 12:00
Chump
It can be done, but you'll need a swag of cash. Not sure where you'll get one. Ex army won't fit as different transfer case/gearbox.
At a rough guess you'd be looking at 3 times the cost of a leccie job. I like the idea of them too but far too exxy for me.
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Follow Up By: Chumpion - Friday, Oct 08, 2004 at 12:07
Friday, Oct 08, 2004 at 12:07
Damn....
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Reply By: Lone Wolf - Friday, Oct 08, 2004 at 18:43
Friday, Oct 08, 2004 at 18:43
WOW!!!! They STILL make PTO's on Land Rovers? I thought it all died out.
Okay, while we are in the Land Rover
camp, can someone tell me the following things please, and I am not trying to hijack the post............
Why do the Army still use Land Rovers? They must be good if the Army is using them, surely.
At my Auto Electrician's place, he sometimes has Army Land Rovers he is working on, why are they always way, way higher than standard Land Rover? Have they all been modified to Army Specs by Land Rover?
If these things come up for sale, are they good value? I know they're spartan.... that's okay.
Oh, why would a winch to couple to PTO be expensive?
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Wolfie
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Follow Up By: Rosco - Bris. - Friday, Oct 08, 2004 at 19:41
Friday, Oct 08, 2004 at 19:41
Wolfie
I think you'll find it's all in the eye of the beholder. Current 110's are stock height. Earlier SIII's looked higher 'cause they'd removed the sills and had cut-out guards.
As for why the army still use them ... I'd best not go there in detail ... (don't want to upset all our Nipponese mates....;-)) )
A hell of a lot of defence forces use them worldwide... QED
Winches ... far as I know Thomas still make PTO jobbies. But you need an adapter to fit onto the side of the transfer case then a drive shaft to the front to drive the winch. Always been much more exxy than leccie.
As far as value goes I think you'd go a long way to find a better maintained second hand unit. And they don't really do more hard work than the average truck ... perhaps less.
Army specs .. yes. Galv chassis etc etc ... very basic "in your face" truck.
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Member - Blue (VIC) - Friday, Oct 08, 2004 at 21:27
Friday, Oct 08, 2004 at 21:27
Hey Lone Wolf,
When I was doing my time back around '91, we had an exceptionally high mortallity rate for the LR 110's, mostly axles and transfer cases. When I asked why the three troop carriers we had only ever saw the workshop for
services and the LR's always seem to be in there, so why don't we use troopies all the time? the answer was "Politics" It didn't answer my question then, it wont answer your question now but the troopies went every where the LR's did and suffered no mech probs at all.
Blue
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Follow Up By: Lone Wolf - Saturday, Oct 09, 2004 at 08:51
Saturday, Oct 09, 2004 at 08:51
Mmmmm............ maybe that's why they're in the Auto Electricians
shop..........
Anyway, I still like them!
Cheers
Wolfie
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Follow Up By: Rosco - Bris. - Saturday, Oct 09, 2004 at 11:36
Saturday, Oct 09, 2004 at 11:36
Blue
I beg to differ. IMO comparing a 110 to a Troopy is akin to comparing a Troopy to a Rav4. There is simply no comparison.
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Follow Up By: Member - Blue (VIC) - Sunday, Oct 10, 2004 at 00:08
Sunday, Oct 10, 2004 at 00:08
Rosco
are you saying a 110 is equivalent to a rav4? ;-)
I drove them both, the 110 isn't much smaller, they were both live axle poverty pack units, the troopy just couldn't be destroyed is all I was saying. Having said that, due to the high maint cost, I've never understood why we continued to use the 110.
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Follow Up By: Rosco - Bris. - Sunday, Oct 10, 2004 at 10:45
Sunday, Oct 10, 2004 at 10:45
Bluey
Depends on your point of view I suppose. My understanding is Toyota had a 3 year contract but the vehicles couldn't cut the mustard. At the end Defence couldn't wait to get back into LR's. And it had nought to do with "saving LRA".
A '91 troopy with leaf springs all round was no match for coils. Only marginally better now.
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Follow Up By: Member - Blue (VIC) - Monday, Oct 11, 2004 at 12:08
Monday, Oct 11, 2004 at 12:08
Well I guess that pretty much rounds up my hi-jacking of this post, thanks for the extra info Rosco, it took 13 years to get a reasonable answer... go figure.
Blue
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Reply By: Member - John- Saturday, Oct 09, 2004 at 19:24
Reply By: Siegucci - Friday, Oct 15, 2004 at 18:34
Friday, Oct 15, 2004 at 18:34
G'Day
Maxidrive is the place to go. But befor you buy, please consider this:
Your 2003 Defender is a Td5 which means there is bugger all room between the
sump and the chassis on the lh side. This is where the drive shaft for the winch goes.
I fitted a few of this wonderfull gizmos and struggled every time to keep enough clearance from the sump and chassis.
There is a hydraulic option. I dont know if they are available for Defenders, but this would be the go. I've seen hydraulic pumps fitted on Td5 transfer boxes for cranes and snow ploughs so the pump is not an issue. Does anyone know if PTO does a hydraulic winch?
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