Fraud - sounds fishy to me

Submitted: Saturday, Oct 23, 2004 at 04:43

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Member - Bruce (San Diego)

my wife Suzi breeds Queensland Heelers in San Diego and just got this from a prospective buyer. Following recent postings on fraud in the Trader Section I thought I would run this by you all.

Thanks,

Bruce

Dear Suzi,

Thanks for your mail.The price of $1000 is okay by me, and i am
ready to purchase a puppy immediately,but concerning the shipping of
the puppy.my shipping agent will come over to your place to pick it
up.
Currently i am not in the STATES.I located in canada.And i am not
finicially balanced for know, i just called my businees associate
who is in the STATES that owes me $4700, and has agreed to pay you on
my behalf with a cashier check .So as soon as you recieve the
payment i will like you to deduct the price of the puppy which is
$1000.Then send the remaining balance to my shipping agent through
WESTERN UNION so that he can be able to make use of the balance to
pay and make an arrangement for the pick-up.Why i did it like this is
because my business associate is always busy and also believe this
business is based on trust.So if this is okay with you and you agree
with this terms kindly get back to me with your contact address and
phone number where the payment will be sent to, such as:
NAME:.....................................
ADDRESS:..............................
CITY:.... ...................................
STATE:....................................
ZIP CODE:...............................
PHONE NUMBER....................
And as soon as you provide me with your contact
address and phone number payment will be made out to
you immediately.Hope to see your urgent reply
soonest.
My best regards to you and your family,
Louis.........

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Reply By: Brad and His Disco - Saturday, Oct 23, 2004 at 05:03

Saturday, Oct 23, 2004 at 05:03

I hope you sent the details of the email address etc to the authorities

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Reply By: Lone Wolf - Saturday, Oct 23, 2004 at 05:19

Saturday, Oct 23, 2004 at 05:19

My daughter had the same thing happen.

Sent over a cheque from Columbia, an American Bank Cheque for $5000.00.
Plan was for her to give him $4000.00 Change.
She presented the cheque to the bank, which wanted 30 days to clear. During that time, this little prick was ringing her everyday for money, must have cost him a shltload in phone calls.
We had a fair idea as to what was going on, but played it out. Cheque bounced, and he got all indignant........ duh!!!

When you have a 16 y/o hell bent on doing something such as selling something on the internet, you gotta let 'em play it out. She learnt that all is not as it seems.

Anyway, ignore this guy, he's a time waster......... simple

Cheers

Wolfie

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Follow Up By: Magnus - Saturday, Oct 23, 2004 at 15:54

Saturday, Oct 23, 2004 at 15:54

Well done Wolfie. Good lesson for the daughter. Just as well she has a savvy old man !!!!

Cheers

Magnus

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Reply By: Savvas - Saturday, Oct 23, 2004 at 07:04

Saturday, Oct 23, 2004 at 07:04

Respond to this fellow with the telephone number of a police station

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Reply By: Eric from Cape York Connections - Saturday, Oct 23, 2004 at 07:12

Saturday, Oct 23, 2004 at 07:12

I must be thick I have I missed somthing.
Or would I be a sucker.

All the best
Eric

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Follow Up By: Member - Brian (Gold Coast) - Saturday, Oct 23, 2004 at 08:23

Saturday, Oct 23, 2004 at 08:23

It's a scam....
1) they send you a cheque for an inflated amount of money in comparison to what they have to pay you. This always comes from a "3rd" party.
2) They want you to send them their "change" from the transaction.
3) Their cheque bounces in 30 days time.
4) If you sent them the "change", you are "done".........

So... in Bruces example.... the "business associate" gives Bruce $4700, Bruce gives the guy a cheque for $3700 "change", the "business associates" cheque bounces and Bruce is out by $3700. (Still has the puppy though, the scammers are rarely interested in the goods, only the money!

Most people think a cheque is OK if it hasn't bounced in 3-10 working days, but international cheques apparently take 30+ days to sort out.....

Lots and Lots of people have fallen for it... it's a variation of the Nigeria Scam that has been doing the "snail mail", fax and now email rounds since Adam played full-forward for the Eden Eagles!

Cheers mate

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Reply By: Member Eric - Saturday, Oct 23, 2004 at 07:53

Saturday, Oct 23, 2004 at 07:53

I only get around 10 a day lol . i should get them all to send cheques , one might go through lol . Then just keep it hahahahah

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Follow Up By: Member - Bruce (San Diego) - Saturday, Oct 23, 2004 at 08:19

Saturday, Oct 23, 2004 at 08:19

Eric,

This one sounded pretty legit until the last email, wanted to know the pedigree, wanted photos of the dog, copy of the health records, show record etc.

I have refered it to our State Attorney General.

Thanks for the input.

Seems as though they are taking it to the next level from the typical African scams.

Bruce

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Follow Up By: Member Eric - Saturday, Oct 23, 2004 at 08:41

Saturday, Oct 23, 2004 at 08:41

I must admit , in the last month , the first email sound pretty normal . But you always catch them on the second.

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Reply By: Bonz (Vic) - Saturday, Oct 23, 2004 at 13:02

Saturday, Oct 23, 2004 at 13:02

Why dont you send them their cheque with $5000 crossed out and 4000 written in in its place?

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Reply By: sean - Saturday, Oct 23, 2004 at 15:33

Saturday, Oct 23, 2004 at 15:33

My guess is someone whos first language is not english and fraud for sure.

let em come around and see what happens?

Sean

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Reply By: Willem - Saturday, Oct 23, 2004 at 17:25

Saturday, Oct 23, 2004 at 17:25

A scam

I received a number of these recently when I put my old truck up for sale here in the EO Trader Section.

Luckily I was aware of the scam.

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Reply By: Rick Blaine - Saturday, Oct 23, 2004 at 19:09

Saturday, Oct 23, 2004 at 19:09

wonder who gets stuck with the fee for the dishonoured cheque.... bet the bank dosent and if the scammer does then the banks may take matters to illogical ends to get their fee....

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Follow Up By: Lone Wolf - Saturday, Oct 23, 2004 at 19:41

Saturday, Oct 23, 2004 at 19:41

Good point Rick.

In my daughters case, because she was a student, she had no fees.
I don't know how this equates to regular folk.

If I recall, the bank here that my daughter presented to put the cheque into a holding account of some description, for the duration of the 30 day incubation.

I am sure we have a member on this forum that knows exactly how this works, trouble is, he's a Nissan driver ............ LOL!!

Cheers

Wolfie

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Reply By: Eric Experience. - Saturday, Oct 23, 2004 at 21:23

Saturday, Oct 23, 2004 at 21:23

Bruce.
I advertised an air con on this forum and got a reply from Nigera the guy wanted to send $3000 more than the asking price so I could pay the shipping agent in cash. I sugested that the shipping agent should pay me in cash for the air con, that was the last I heard of the deal. Eric.

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