Orange Beacons

Submitted: Tuesday, Oct 26, 2004 at 19:58
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As of Jan 1st 2006 in WA all vehicles with a beacon will have to be covered up when on public roads. Whoever made that Beauty up hasn't been to the Pilbara or the Gold fields.
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, Oct 26, 2004 at 20:07

Tuesday, Oct 26, 2004 at 20:07
Thats been the rule for a while on east coast.. Must be one of them "conferences" where all the morons making rules throw their own ones into a pool and everyone picks the dumbest..
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Follow Up By: Member - Darryl - Tuesday, Oct 26, 2004 at 20:22

Tuesday, Oct 26, 2004 at 20:22
Whilst working in the murchison goldfiels in the eighties i was stopped by the constabulary on the main highway and told to cover up .It has been a rule for a long time ,but not enforced.I personally think it wont make a spot of difference.We had green for maintainence,red blast crew,orange earthmoving fleet and blue for geology.We had operations both sides of main highway and had to cross day and night.
If you are going to town maybe cover up?

cheers

Darryl
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Reply By: Member - Bradley- Tuesday, Oct 26, 2004 at 21:01

Tuesday, Oct 26, 2004 at 21:01
Gee i never came across that in the quarries and mines in my last job, had em permanently mounted on the tray bar, as does everyone else, Vicroads drive around with full light bars not covered , as do shire etc.. If its not on then whats the prob ?? I can just imagine the oh&s dilemmas now for all the gravel trucks , conc agis etc. that have light up on the roof. Yep the dingbat brigade at it again..

Wonder if the coppers will have little covers made up too.....
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Reply By: Brian - Tuesday, Oct 26, 2004 at 21:48

Tuesday, Oct 26, 2004 at 21:48
In Qld now you need a permit to have one fitted to a Vehicle!

"Blue for Geology" ??? As far as I know Blue lights have been an instant fine (reserved for Police fire Ambulance )!

Have had to pay up many a carton for making it to town with flashing light on!!!

Will make No Difference to safety just Bureaucrats justifying there job and revenue rasing!!!!

Brian
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Follow Up By: Member - Darryl - Wednesday, Oct 27, 2004 at 23:15

Wednesday, Oct 27, 2004 at 23:15
Brian,
Its interesting in different states and there laws.All our dump trucks and mobile fleet were licenced because we had to cross main highway, many mines are the same today in the pilbra and murchison with help of course with stop signs and lolly pop people manning the crossing.
In the pits especially at night with the different colour beacons you new exactly were the fleet were working ,geology,and blast etc and there route to the haul road.
The rangers now have blue lights with red,it goes on and on with the revenue raisers at work.They will take the insurance angle to make it work because it uninvorcable in WA as i see it at the moment.

cheers

darryl
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Reply By: Brian B (QLD) - Tuesday, Oct 26, 2004 at 23:01

Tuesday, Oct 26, 2004 at 23:01
Hi Everyone,

The rule was designed to try and reduce the number of vehicles driving around with roof beacons on which has been attributed to a number of accidents on freeways especially. My understanding is that it was more directed to metropolitan areas.

Typically what happens is that some motorists stop for a gawk or they think there is an accident or similar especially when they see flashing yellow lights and this in itself has been attributed to causing some accidents. I realise that the motorists are also doing the wrong thing as well but human nature is hard to change so typically governments try to "fix it with legislation", which generally means they will make a truckload of money out of it.

Covering them up seems stupid but there is a need to ensure they are switched off when not required for their legitimate use. I know in the Brisbane area you regularly see empty trucks etc driving the motorways with them flashing constantly, and this can confuse some motorists.

Just wanted to add another angle to the discussion folks.

Cheers
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Follow Up By: Member - Chris O (WA) - Tuesday, Oct 26, 2004 at 23:21

Tuesday, Oct 26, 2004 at 23:21
I agree that people need to ensure that they are turned off after leaving the mining lease. But to have to put a cover on them is dumb. Police should enforce penalties if using a beacon without cause, not just for the fact it's fitted to your vehicle because of requirements at your work place etc.

Emergency services are exempt of course.

I just think this is an extreme measure without any thought.
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Follow Up By: Bundyman - Wednesday, Oct 27, 2004 at 13:01

Wednesday, Oct 27, 2004 at 13:01
Brian,

Ever thought how effective the RACQ rotating orange lights are on there utes when they are assiting a broken down motorist on the side of the road in the rain or at night. All the light does is make people aware that there is a hazard - I can't see how it would cause an accident - we all know what a fire truck, ambulance and police car look like. I believe that yes everyman and his dog shouldn't have them but in the mining towns where I live and where the original message came from its a bit of a joke.

Cheers,
Hughesy
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Follow Up By: Brian B (QLD) - Wednesday, Oct 27, 2004 at 14:51

Wednesday, Oct 27, 2004 at 14:51
Hi Hughesy,

I totally agree with what you are saying and that is why I said that we all will take more notice of them when they are appropriately used. The RACQ is a great example of these lights being used correctly.

I am with Queensland Ambulance and we keep a lot of information on crash causes and the main problem in relation to flashing beacons is that in some motorists it provokes some confusion even though it may seem obvious to the majority of us what they are for.

As an example regularly on the northern and southern freeway approaches into Brisbane we have accidents with this being the first part of the cause. Typically the traffic is going at 100kph and someone sees a flashing light so they stand on the brake or they lose road concentration while they try and see what the light is for. This in turn leads to a nose to tail collision sometimes with multiple vehicles. When you see the crash data afterwards the motorist at times will have said they slowed because they saw a flashing light etc. Believe me this is a regular occurence.

Like I said I think it is silly in places like mining towns but I know from my involvement with work that the main thrust of the legislation is to reduce the non essential use of these in the city. Unfortunately the law doesn't differentiate between city and country and police can enforce the law accross the state.

I hope this helps explain another side of the issue.

At the end of the day it is stupid that police can enforce for not having them covered that's for sure.

Cheers
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Reply By: Rick Blaine - Wednesday, Oct 27, 2004 at 20:19

Wednesday, Oct 27, 2004 at 20:19
And here am I thinking that a flashing Yellow light on the back of my caravan may have stopped a thumb up bum, non thinking moron running into it.......
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