Troopy pop top camper

Submitted: Sunday, Oct 31, 2004 at 08:15
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I am looking at buying one of these. 88 model.
Does anyone have views (experience would be even better) on what this does to the strength of the vehicle? It will be used off road around Central OZ.

Does the top effect fuel consumption (need I explain that this refers to driving it with the top down, not up?) What sort of figures could I expect? Standard diesel engine, no turbo.
Cheers
Mike
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Reply By: Davoe - Sunday, Oct 31, 2004 at 16:34

Sunday, Oct 31, 2004 at 16:34
Ive got a l/c camper for sale 2h donk just been fully serviced (all oils filter etc) new injectors 10k of work done in last 2 years k or neares offer
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Follow Up By: mfewster - Sunday, Oct 31, 2004 at 18:55

Sunday, Oct 31, 2004 at 18:55
Had a long look at the pop top conversion today. The owner had to bolt it down internally to the roof because the whole structure kept threatening to part company with the vehicle on Territory corrugations. I think i have now answered my own question and the pop top conversion is off my buying list while I remain in NT, but thanks for the response Davoe.
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Follow Up By: Davoe - Sunday, Oct 31, 2004 at 19:45

Sunday, Oct 31, 2004 at 19:45
sure? my wagon is custom built and is not based on a troopy. It is not a pop top so is about as high as a britz camper but is bigger internally. It has a double bed permanantly set up with storage underneath. It also has plenty of storage in overhead cupboards, fridge, stove, oven, sink with running water etc. the body is good with a few dings and scratches.
80l water and 150l of fuel It has been tested on the grr, moorinei loop road, palm springs, ruby gorge etc and has held together. Mechanically it is very good with new axle and swivel hub seals, new injectors, new head, and has 170k on it I was told the motor was recon recently and while I cant confirm this when the head was off you could still see the hone marks on the cylinders indicating this was true. 12,000 ono
anyway for a 2h powered camper you could expect about 14-17l per 100k depending on speed.
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Reply By: Member - Collyn R (WA) - Sunday, Oct 31, 2004 at 19:43

Sunday, Oct 31, 2004 at 19:43
Have you had a look at the Trakka conversions offering?

These people have been providing this on the Troopy for heavens-knows how many years. They are far from cheap but their design and workmanship is top quality.
Am personally interested in this thread as I'm considering one as a replacement for my OKA.
Collyn Rivers
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Follow Up By: Troopie - Tuesday, Nov 02, 2004 at 13:23

Tuesday, Nov 02, 2004 at 13:23
G'day Collyn
I note you are considering going from the OKA to a pop-top Troopy. As you can see from me post below, I have one which I have set up pretty well (IMO anyhow).

Your books and articles have been of great interest to me - so if I can be of any assistance in your search/set-up please don't hesitate to ask.

Cheers
Dave
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Reply By: stevesub - Monday, Nov 01, 2004 at 09:48

Monday, Nov 01, 2004 at 09:48
We have a Y2000 78 Series pop-top Troopy, ex-rental with 190,000km and have not had a problem and it does not look like it has ever had a problem with the pop-top. We have used the vehicle extensively off road but admittedly we have not been to the NT yet - the Troopie probably has though.
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Reply By: Troopie - Monday, Nov 01, 2004 at 15:58

Monday, Nov 01, 2004 at 15:58
G'day There
I too have a 2001 78 Series Pop-Top Troopie - like Stevesub mine was also Ex-Rental and had about 100k on the clock when I got it. (4.2 diesel, non-turbo)

In my case - I could not recommend such a vehicle highly enough. Since owning it - I have done the Canning Stock Route, Gibb River Road (including Kalumburu, Mitchell Falls and Port Warrander), Oodnadatta track and a whole lot of local weekend trips..... As you can see - I'm not shy about how I use it.... So far I have had no problems with it (now has 140k on the clock). The conversion was originally performed by Ballina Campers I believe....

I bought mine Ex-Rental direct from Kea Campers in Sydney (ask for Norman) - they were great to deal with and the vehicle was in tip-top shape. I looked at others (privately and through other rental co's) and the ones through Kea stood out head and shoulders.

I have noticed absolutely no water leakage or any such problem with the roof - the only thing I would comment on is the whole vehicle clearly doesn't seal as well as a non-converted vehicle, so a small amout of dust seems to get in and turns up in one of the cupboards. I solved this by taping over the cargo area vents inside the rear, and leaving the fan running when it's REALLY dusty (its not a big deal at all - but worth mentioning).

So to answer your question - I'm no engineer - but I believe there would be some reductions to structural integrity caused by the roof, but I have seen no sigs of any issues caused by this. I had a 2000 model non-converted troopie before this one - and fuel consumption is roughly the same (about 13L/100kms around town; 12L/100kms gentle cruising; 14-15L/100kms towing a boat; worst was 22L/100kms really loaded up driving in heavy sand on the CSR).

I have also made extensive modifications to my truck to improve it's off-road and touring ability - and think it the ideal vehicle for people who really like to get away - and don't want any hassles with tents or trailers (you can camp anywhere on any surface). Mine has three batteries; front and rear bars with twin wheel carrier; spotties; twine shower; OME suspension; aerotech seats; compressor; 3rd fuel tank (tot. 275 litres); water tank (came with conversion); good stereo; UHF; home made roof console; and custom over bonnet tradesman style roof rack. I have also modified the interior lay-out slightly - the fridge is now on a slide at the small rear door, and I changed the roof bed lay-out to allow for a thicker mattress (I'm a softy).

From pulling up - we can be sitting on chairs with the first beer cracked in about 4 lazy minutes - undo four clips - give the roof a nudge and voila!!!

My advice - if you can find a good one at the right dollar - go for it, happy to talk more. (I have nothing to do with Kea - but can recommend them if you were after a newer one and have the dollar - you will be pleasantly surprised with their prices - I was).

It's not all beer and skittles though - the bad points I have noted would be:
1. The roof of my troopy pops at an angle (hinges above the windscreen) - this results in a triangular sleeping area which may feel a little confined at first - the big windows make for great ventilation though - it has never worried me.
2. If you are the sort of person who sets up base camp and does day trips - you have to pack up your sleeping area to go driving - not a big deal, but some might not like this. Depends on your personal style.
3. If the roof is popped, and the bed set-up, you don't really have much room to get changed or shelter inside. We often put up a tarp for extra shade, and/or hide behind a door to get changed - we also have one of those pop-up shower enclosures which can be used in cases where you can't get any privacy by hiding behind the truck.

As with any camping set up - there is always a few compromises - you just need to find a set-up that involves the least compromises for your style.

Good luck!!!

Cheers
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Follow Up By: John - Thursday, Nov 04, 2004 at 11:33

Thursday, Nov 04, 2004 at 11:33
Hi there Troopie
I met you both at cathedral gorge and sunset ( remember the funny US girls and spinifex) I have the troopie camper with the rack over the bonnet and had just strugled back from a long walk up picininee creek!
Made it to Cp York - van is in Townsville will be back on the road end of the month. At present back home in Perth for a month.
Seems like the rest of your trip went ok - my sunset pics came out well how did yours?
Troopie went well too.
Cheers
John
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Follow Up By: Troopie - Friday, Nov 05, 2004 at 10:16

Friday, Nov 05, 2004 at 10:16
G'day John
Great to hear from you mate! Yep, the rest of our trip was brilliant after the Bungles. We were held up in Kununurra for a while waiting for the radiator - but no big deal. Yeah - the sunset photos came out pretty well - although not quite as a well as I'd hoped.... Got some truly amazing ones from on the Canning though!!!!

After the Bungles, we crossed the GRR and went up to M. falls, Port Warrander and Kalumburu - great stuff. Then ended up in Broome and Cape Leveque for a while before making the long trip home - although we did duck up to Darwin for a few days.

The truck was brilliant - no murmours or problems at all, although the vehicle we were travelling with had several flats on the GRR and a few minor, but frustrating, issues.

How'd you go up the Cape? We spent several weeks on the Cape two years back and loved it!

Once you are on the Rd. again - if you end up down this way your welcome to swing by anytime - there's plenty of room.

Cheers
Dave
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Reply By: mfewster - Monday, Nov 01, 2004 at 18:23

Monday, Nov 01, 2004 at 18:23
The contributors to this forumare extremely generous with their time and assistance. Much appreciated. A poptop is back on my shopping list, although not the one I went to see. I guess it all depends on what model I see that as to what I eventually buy.
Thanks again to everyone for their help.
Mike
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Follow Up By: Member - Collyn R (WA) - Tuesday, Nov 02, 2004 at 13:08

Tuesday, Nov 02, 2004 at 13:08
Mike

Just a final comment.

There's a fair number of these pop tops as hire vehicles up here in Broome. They spend their working lives being thrashed up and down the Gibb River Road and the 1050 km Tanami Track etc. They do not appear to have problems or the hire companies would not use them.

Re Troopies generally - super reliable. Totally honest vehicles, and in the non-truck 4WD field the 78-series is arguably the best ever made.
Collyn Rivers
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