Tyre Pressures, Fraser Island and Insurance cover

Submitted: Monday, Nov 15, 2004 at 10:19
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Up on Fraser last week and got talking to some friends who live at Orchid Beach about the perennial problem of Backpackers in rental troopies. I commented about how often you see them stuck in soft sand and he told me that when they pick up these vehicles they are given a list of conditions which includes "DO NOT LET THE TYRES DOWN".
Queensland Parks and Wildlife Service, who maintain the tracks on the island, used to have a sign at the entrance to the track from Middle Rocks to Waddy Point that said "Recommended tyre pressure 18psi". One day a troopie full of backpackers saw this sign and let their tyres down and shortly thereafter rolled the troopie, a not uncommon occurance. Went back to the rental company expecting to be covered by insurance but were told "No, your tyres were not inflated to the manufacturers recommended pressures as per the tyre placard and you are therefore not covered". Backpakers said we just did as the sign suggested. Insurance company said "Tough! Pay up!" Backpackers then attempted to get cover from QPWS who put the sign up but were told "No, it is only an advisory sign so no deal".
The washup is the Backpackers had to pay for the repairs to the Troopie, the sign has since been removed and Backpackers are no longer allowed to take their vehicles any further north than Indian Head.

The main issue this raises is what does "your" insurance company think of you lowering your tyre pressures and could they use this as yet another reason to avoid payment?

Cheers, John.
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Reply By: Member - Bradley- Monday, Nov 15, 2004 at 12:28

Monday, Nov 15, 2004 at 12:28
Hmm my ins. covers me for 'anything the vehicle was designed to do' so its pretty grey , but i know that the vehicle would be delivered to a panel shop before the assessor got a look at it , plenty of time to stick some air back in if you were worried.

But if you had your beadlocks fitted etc. then it may give them ideas to go looking .
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Follow Up By: Peter - Monday, Nov 15, 2004 at 14:34

Monday, Nov 15, 2004 at 14:34
scuse my ignorance wats a"" beadlock""
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Follow Up By: Member - Bradley- Monday, Nov 15, 2004 at 19:03

Monday, Nov 15, 2004 at 19:03
a beadlock is a secondary method of securing the tyre bead to the rim, they can be external bolt on devices as part of the rim , or internal bladders which force the beads outwards. They allow you to run your tyres at really low pressures which would normally result in a popped bead seal and a flat tyre. Damn good but expensive jiggers..
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Reply By: 3.0turbob - Monday, Nov 15, 2004 at 12:50

Monday, Nov 15, 2004 at 12:50
Having seen backpackers drive on Fraser, it's no surprise they roll 'em, especially a troopy full of 'em. I would have thought you'd roll the tyre off the rim before actual vehicle rollover, but then again troopies have a higher C of G. If you drive sensibly, to the conditions with tyre pressure lowered, there should be no problems, even if you do get bogged (unless you're below the high tide mark), but then nothing is idiot proof I suppose.

Rob
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Reply By: Member -Dodger - Monday, Nov 15, 2004 at 17:38

Monday, Nov 15, 2004 at 17:38
Drive on sand with the tyres down, if you get into grief then get someone to pump them up.
Yes ins. Companys. will use any excuse to renig as do rental companys.
It's highly likely that if the vehicle is driven sensibly that a roll over would not occur.
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Follow Up By: MrBitchi - Tuesday, Nov 16, 2004 at 08:58

Tuesday, Nov 16, 2004 at 08:58
Dadger, the troopies in question are usually loaded with 10 people (2 in front and 8 in back) with ALL there gear loaded on the roof rack. They are, IMO, overloaded and extremely top heavy. No wonder they roll...
John
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Follow Up By: Utemad - Tuesday, Nov 16, 2004 at 14:48

Tuesday, Nov 16, 2004 at 14:48
Don't forget the mentality. I spoke to one U.S. backpacker (who had a fully loaded Troopy as descibed above) who asked how bad the tracks were ahead. I said we made it and he would too if he was careful and lowered pressures etc. Then his made said "C'mon were bigger than him we'll have no problems". Don't know what happened to them but I dare say they came to grief in one form or another.
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