how to prevent mantle damage?

Submitted: Monday, Nov 15, 2004 at 17:54
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Hi all, I have a coleman dual fuel mantle lantern, and am wondering if anyone has an idea how to prevent mantle damage during driving. I have heard from somewhere that spraying them with hairspray is meant to stop them getting ruined on rough roads. Anyone tried this?
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Reply By: Mike Harding - Monday, Nov 15, 2004 at 17:56

Monday, Nov 15, 2004 at 17:56
Yep and while it's not a perfect solution it's a pretty good one and certainly much improves the mantle life.

Just don't let the butch boys in your group know you've got a can with you though Dearie :)

Mike Harding
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Reply By: Member - Nick (TAS) - Monday, Nov 15, 2004 at 19:16

Monday, Nov 15, 2004 at 19:16
We also have the same light and last year while away(3 months) we only used 8 mantles,useing the light nearly every night.The light was kept in the 4wd strapped to the cargo barrier in its plastic carry case(upright).We travelled some pretty rough roads including up the Cape,across the Gulf ,down the Tanami and Oodnadatta tracks.Back home while camping a couple of weeks ago,we broke two in two nights but the light was laying down.
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Reply By: Max - Sydney - Monday, Nov 15, 2004 at 20:35

Monday, Nov 15, 2004 at 20:35
Shaggy

WE figured for our first big trip years ago that we would break one every day, so bought 50 mantles. Just having them fixed that - brought 45 home!

Actually, it might have been because on a mate's advice, we bought a block of polyurethane foam that was big enough to fit in the gas lamp box (ours was a primus), and we cut a hole big enough to push the lamp into (used an electric knife from memory). That seemed to protect the light packed in with our other stuff, and its still in use by our kids. We used it until we got a car with second battery and use a 12 volt light now.

So just padding the lamp well seems to be the trick.

Max
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Reply By: Bonz (Vic) - Monday, Nov 15, 2004 at 20:47

Monday, Nov 15, 2004 at 20:47
I was going to say forget about the mantles and go for the little fluoro lights, far superior light, much much safer especially with little kids too. We got a fluoro lantern for the kids too, 4 d cells lasts about 15 nights, unless its left on
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Reply By: mfewster - Monday, Nov 15, 2004 at 22:31

Monday, Nov 15, 2004 at 22:31
I'd forget the mantle problems and go with a Versalight or similar. No breakages problems, no hissing, no gas to carry and run out of etc.
Check the recent thread comparing fluoro lights and costs.
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Follow Up By: Eric from Cape York Connections - Tuesday, Nov 16, 2004 at 06:22

Tuesday, Nov 16, 2004 at 06:22
Mike the lead lites are good .I have had mine for years untill I backed over it.
Then got a new one they are easy to store I roll it up and put it under the drivers seat.

All the best
Eric
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Follow Up By: shaggy - Tuesday, Nov 16, 2004 at 07:24

Tuesday, Nov 16, 2004 at 07:24
I have two versalites and a coleman twin flouro lantern. The problem is that once I get somewhere with the 4wd I like to take off on foot even more remote. Or I take things kayaking, and need light source that is not on electricity. I am not just a 4wd camper you see. Sometimes I even take my dirtbike and just carry a backpack and do motorcycle camping. I am yet to hear of a dual battery setup on a dirtbike...haha
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Follow Up By: Baz (NSW) - Tuesday, Nov 16, 2004 at 08:54

Tuesday, Nov 16, 2004 at 08:54
Shaggy i used to use one of those dolfin lanterns and torch in one had a flashing light as well too from memory when i went camping on my bike small enough to fit in my camelback H.A.W.G and gives good light too.

Baz.
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Follow Up By: GUPatrol - Wednesday, Nov 17, 2004 at 12:15

Wednesday, Nov 17, 2004 at 12:15
Shaggy,
I have both the coleman dual fuel lantern and the versalite, like you I like to head off sometimes, the kids also take the dual fuel coleman when they head off to the toilet (or long drop if available).
I find that the mantles which use the metal clip last longer.
I have now had these mantles installed for two years and have gone across the simpson, five Vic High country trips and one to Cape york on the same mantles... (in fact I have forgotten how they clip on)
I keep the lantern in the green soft case (from coleman). Gets used every night when camping.
I find that the secret is to store it upright when travelling not alowing it to move (I got a little spot where it fits nice and tight and remains upright).

William
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Reply By: Gajm (VIC) - Monday, Nov 15, 2004 at 22:45

Monday, Nov 15, 2004 at 22:45
I have one and have had no problems with mantles while driving, the lantern was kept in the Coleman plastic cover, along with one of those Coleman covers that velcro around the glass, it was stored upright in the trailer part of the Camper trailer with no extra padding apart from being wedged in tightly with all the other gear.

Just make sure you let the lantern cool down before you move it or pack it away. I usualy put mine under the card table or under the awning as we headed to bed, and turned it off there, then packed it away in the morning.
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Reply By: Bilbo - Monday, Nov 15, 2004 at 23:00

Monday, Nov 15, 2004 at 23:00
Oh and remember, when removing old mantles from the lamp - it's toxic, very toxic. They're OK when unburnt, but once used - poison.

Bilbo
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Follow Up By: Muddy 'doe (SA) - Monday, Nov 15, 2004 at 23:07

Monday, Nov 15, 2004 at 23:07
Ya learn something every day!

Did not know that. Thanks.

Muddy
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Follow Up By: Mad Dog (Victoria) - Monday, Nov 15, 2004 at 23:16

Monday, Nov 15, 2004 at 23:16
Was big news some time ago. The decaying thorium in the mantels produces radium, if I remember correctly.
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Tuesday, Nov 16, 2004 at 06:21

Tuesday, Nov 16, 2004 at 06:21
>The decaying thorium in the mantels produces radium

No wonder they glow in the dark! :)

Mike Harding
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Follow Up By: Lone Wolf - Tuesday, Nov 16, 2004 at 17:50

Tuesday, Nov 16, 2004 at 17:50
So, I had a quick look at a periodic table, and yes, only 2 Neutrons apart. So......... if I'm using a thorium based tip in my Tig welder, am I running the risk of of radiation, as well as the normal UV etc?

Chernobyl Wolves........

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Reply By: Member - Pesty (SA) - Monday, Nov 15, 2004 at 23:11

Monday, Nov 15, 2004 at 23:11
Have coleman petrol light great light but leave it home mostly now and use 2 11w 1amp twin fluro lights magic and no dam mantles, just plug in and instant light
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Reply By: Billy - Tuesday, Nov 16, 2004 at 07:25

Tuesday, Nov 16, 2004 at 07:25
Good to see a thread on lanterns again!

You can't beat the Versalite Fluro (or similar) for convenience and performance for sure and thye are a cool light for summer. But in winter they are a little light on in the heat department.

I'm not sure which Coleman Duel Fuel you have but we've had a Northstar now for a while and am still on the first mantle (carried in the vehicle in it's padded case), It's tied at both ends and looks really tough. The praises of these lanterns have been sung here before so I won't go on..

In winter we carry a Tilley as well (now run on the previously discussed "Diggers Odourless Kerosene"). It produces great light, the best heat off the big enamel top, and hell, I just love the sound! The Tilley mantle also ties at both ends.

Never needed to try the hair spray trick, seems like mantles that tie at both ends may have a better chance of survival.

Regds

Bill
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Follow Up By: duncs - Tuesday, Nov 16, 2004 at 23:51

Tuesday, Nov 16, 2004 at 23:51
Bill,

Haven't used a Tilley so I'm not sure if this will work but if it runs on kero it should.

Try it on citronella and it will keep the bities away too. At least it works in the old Hurricane lamp.

Duncs
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Reply By: Banjo (SA) - Tuesday, Nov 16, 2004 at 09:05

Tuesday, Nov 16, 2004 at 09:05
Yep to the above - I reckon mantles have just about had their day - with kids running around you need a flood light I guess so 12 fluoro is the go - with adults only poking about, a minor energy saving light is all we use for the camp, plus the LED lamps on the headband - they are brilliant - principle is you carry a small amount of light with you, instead of flooding areas that you MAY be going to (or not). You can read with a good led lamp. We use them a lot. LED's are very frugal on energy consumption - there is one on the side of our new camper for the kitchen.
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Follow Up By: Davoe - Tuesday, Nov 16, 2004 at 17:01

Tuesday, Nov 16, 2004 at 17:01
you are right the versa light has made the gas lantern obselete. For our field work we use a mix of versa light and led headlight. (I got a fantastic one 8led high beam 4 low, more than powerfull enough to see you way round the bush or just read). I spent 70 days out in the bush in the last 6 months and got a fair idea what works quickly, easily and effectively
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Reply By: Member -Dodger - Tuesday, Nov 16, 2004 at 17:30

Tuesday, Nov 16, 2004 at 17:30
Go the Versa light or something similar, they are really convenient or get a rechargeable flouro the type that is inverted likr the versa light. I have both one for the camp connected to the aux batt and the other the recharge job for chekin the lines and other such stuff.
All in all easier than refillin lanterns each day.
I used to have a handle on life, but it broke.

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Follow Up By: Mad Dog (Victoria) - Tuesday, Nov 16, 2004 at 18:02

Tuesday, Nov 16, 2004 at 18:02
>chekin the lines

What is that, are you a lineman for the county searchin for another overload
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Follow Up By: Member -Dodger - Wednesday, Nov 17, 2004 at 09:22

Wednesday, Nov 17, 2004 at 09:22
Just a mad keen fisherman.
I used to have a handle on life, but it broke.

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Reply By: pathfinder - Thursday, Nov 18, 2004 at 13:20

Thursday, Nov 18, 2004 at 13:20
pay extra for the coleman gold top? mantles - last much longer than normal ones...
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