Border Track at Xmas

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Hi all. We are heading to Adelaide (from Melbourne) for xmas with the family, maybe stopping over in the Otways on the way over. We thought to do something challenging on the way home - for us at least. A friend has mentioned the Border Track as a suitable drive. We are new to 4wd'ing and have not done a driving course yet. We are fitting out the Prado 90 TX diesel with gear but will not have the suspension done by then. Will have the fridge, pack rack etc + tents and the camping gear. Plan to have the UHF in by then as well.

Any comments on the toughness of the Border Track, both in terms of ruggedness and time of year (I understand it can be hot) will be appreciated. Is it suitable to travel alone? Should we have done a course first. I would expect the main problem will be Sand Dunes (I plan to have a complressor).

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Reply By: navaraman - Friday, Nov 19, 2004 at 13:19

Friday, Nov 19, 2004 at 13:19
I've only ever done section of the Border Track, usually travelling alone. Theree are usually plenty of other vehicles on the track, at Xmas it will be busy so you'll be OK from that point of view. There are a few big BIG bogholes, most if not all of thses are fenced off now with side tracks around them. They will be dry at Xmas but need to be treated with respect. Tyre pressure around 18psi work for me and Red Bluff campground is highly recommended. Enjoy.
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Reply By: Mad Dog (Victoria) - Friday, Nov 19, 2004 at 13:36

Friday, Nov 19, 2004 at 13:36
Not a problem Gazza. There's a couple of tough dunes to get over and a few ruts further south but no problem for the Prado and an inexperienced driver. Take it easy and deflate the tyres and yes it will probably be anything from warm to bloodly hot. You will find that 99.9999% is very easy
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Friday, Nov 19, 2004 at 15:46

Friday, Nov 19, 2004 at 15:46
Tough Dunes?? Hardest dune I had to get over was when I was towing something?
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Follow Up By: Mad Dog (Victoria) - Friday, Nov 19, 2004 at 17:35

Friday, Nov 19, 2004 at 17:35
You'll keep :)
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Friday, Nov 19, 2004 at 17:37

Friday, Nov 19, 2004 at 17:37
And didn't that guy in the HILUX have all sorts of trouble getting over, had to lower his tyres to 4psi just to make it
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Follow Up By: Mad Dog (Victoria) - Friday, Nov 19, 2004 at 18:03

Friday, Nov 19, 2004 at 18:03
It wasn't that hot there Geoff so why the heat stroke.

There was no hilux but I can remember an old 80 or 60 series flying over after lowering his tyres further. I knew I should have dropped mine lower than 45, would have made that last 10 metres and without having to snatch another gear like some.
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Friday, Nov 19, 2004 at 18:05

Friday, Nov 19, 2004 at 18:05
Ask Wazza, I am sure it was a HiLux on skinny tyres, they tried a few times and then lowered their tyres. I stand to be corrected but my recollection is HiLux.
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Follow Up By: Mad Dog (Victoria) - Friday, Nov 19, 2004 at 19:36

Friday, Nov 19, 2004 at 19:36
I thought you were sick today. What are you doing on here hassling people :)

I'll tell you what. Next time you get stuck in the Otways don't call the national guard again. Call me and I'll haul you out.
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Friday, Nov 19, 2004 at 21:01

Friday, Nov 19, 2004 at 21:01
In this household we speak of the .....otways..... in hushed tones showing due revernce and an acceptable level of fear and respect. Then we go buy electric winches and diamond shape chains and we get fit for the unavoidable walk out! Yes I am unwell today and this maintains my sanity, correcting your memory of HiLux's on the Border track.
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Reply By: Member - John - Friday, Nov 19, 2004 at 13:41

Friday, Nov 19, 2004 at 13:41
Gazza, the Border Track is a great drive, though as you say, it could be very hot at that time of the year. If you check out the maps for the area, you will see that it is one way from North to South in one section. It can safely be driven by your self, in a well prepared vehicle. You don't need suspension mods, or a driving course, just sensible driving. Most dunes have a "chicken" track around them if needed. The sand on the dunes is very fine, so let the tyers down a lot, maybe try 18psi first, then maybe a bit lower if needed. I also believe that parts of the track have been upgraded/expanded, which may detract from the experience? Both times I have been down the track, I have camped at the Soutern end. Hope you enjoy it.
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Reply By: Stewy - Friday, Nov 19, 2004 at 13:47

Friday, Nov 19, 2004 at 13:47
Check with National Parks prior good chance it will be closed due to fire bans
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Reply By: D-Jack - Friday, Nov 19, 2004 at 17:13

Friday, Nov 19, 2004 at 17:13
Border Track is pretty easy, even for the inexperienced provided you are doing the section that falls within the conservation park Pinaroo side (and let tyres down for the sand dunes) The 30-40 kms South of Bordertown which is out of the park is a challenge, believe me, I did my clutch and alternator in, not that there will necessarily be much water in the bog holes (which that side have not been touched and are all accessable) You will need to use common sense and be discerning about what ruts you go into, as I have seen a lifted hilux and standard 80 series (no spare) stuck with 2 wheels spinning in the air. You should take a winch if going alone, or take someone else (with a snatch strap), or give anything hinting of getting stuck/bogged/bottomed out/rolling over a definite miss. I personally don't think the border track would be much fun, especialy if the temperatures reach 40 degrees plus, but maybe I'm just soft.
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Reply By: geocacher (djcache) - Friday, Nov 19, 2004 at 22:14

Friday, Nov 19, 2004 at 22:14
Just come back from there last weekend and a Hilux in our group had trouble with it's Auto Disengaging Diff so did the whole trip in two wheel drive with 18psi all round. Only got snatched twice.

Granted it was driven like it was stolen a couple of times and there was a bit of moisture in the sand, dry would have been more of a challenge, but it made it and proved a point.

Enjoy the trip. Look out for the hive of bees in the wall of the Red Bluff loo. Three in our group got stung.

I've gotta ask, why the hell do you ply line a corugated iron dunny if not to give the bees and wasps a 5 star home?

Pack the adrenaline...

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Follow Up By: Member- Peter & Mrs Peter, Lez - Friday, Nov 19, 2004 at 22:45

Friday, Nov 19, 2004 at 22:45
Dave, which part of the Track did you travel? ie. from---to.
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Reply By: tojo - Saturday, Nov 20, 2004 at 16:30

Saturday, Nov 20, 2004 at 16:30
l think you will find that the track is fairly easy these days as all the hard dunes and pot holes that used to swallow cars up have been bypassed.But still not a bad drive l believe.
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Reply By: Mike Harding - Saturday, Nov 20, 2004 at 21:13

Saturday, Nov 20, 2004 at 21:13
I did a section of the Border Track 3 or 4 years ago in August (I think). Nice weather for it at that time of year - bloody hot in Dec/Jan I imagine - it's not too difficult, I did most of it on road tyre pressures in 4WD.

If you decide not to do it consider the Murrayville Track (runs to Nhill) it's an easy drive and (providing it's not wet) could be done in a 2WD and it does have a few water points along it and a few pleasant camp spots (I might just be persuaded to give you the GPS co-ordinates of one - maybe :). There are a couple of tracks off the Murrayville which are rather more challenging. But don't underestimate that country - in hot weather you could die out there without the right precautions - and I'm guessing you have children? so exercise caution at that time of year.

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