Coleman gas-powered generator??

Submitted: Monday, Nov 22, 2004 at 17:48
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There have been some rumours circulating about Coleman bringing out a LPG powered generator over recent months.

Apparently some people have even seen a prototype at various shows etc and there are claims that a 9kg gas bottle will last 30 something days etc etc.

Well, I couldn't find anything about it on their website, so I rang their 1800 number and asked the direct question. The answer came back from the Product Manager that they have been looking at doing something like this but that nothing has actually happened yet.

Does anybody have any other info.? Could Coleman just be playing funny tricks?

I will put off buying a petrol powered leccy gen set until the situation is clarified as a quiet power generator that doesn't require me to carry another form of fuel around would be an instant winner in my books.
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Reply By: crfan - Monday, Nov 22, 2004 at 18:23

Monday, Nov 22, 2004 at 18:23
Gidday Roachie,
A mate of mine's old man used to run gas into his petrol gennie through a regulator and a bit of hose stuck in the carby intake used to get around 30 hours out of a nine kilo bottle i think, would'nt recomend it though.
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Follow Up By: Member - Pesty (SA) - Monday, Nov 22, 2004 at 19:01

Monday, Nov 22, 2004 at 19:01
No crfan, these are a gas powered generator, new concept, no motor, totally silent, about 30 days to a bottle gas !

All I have haerd!
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Reply By: Member - Jimbo (VIC) - Monday, Nov 22, 2004 at 19:19

Monday, Nov 22, 2004 at 19:19
Roachie,

There was a post on something similar to this a couple of months ago which came to nothing. Apparently space age technology that will take years to develop.

Sounds great if it comes to fruition.

Cheers,

Jim
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Follow Up By: Nudenut - Tuesday, Nov 23, 2004 at 08:13

Tuesday, Nov 23, 2004 at 08:13
"space age technology"

er i think you mean "Space age Fiction"
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Reply By: Lone Wolf - Monday, Nov 22, 2004 at 19:55

Monday, Nov 22, 2004 at 19:55
Dismiss it Bill

Stuff of legends, 7 months ago it was Waeco ( Blue Apple ). I rang them, never was going to happen.

Supposed to be a spin off of the Seebeck Principle.

Go & buy your genny........

Wolfie
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Reply By: David Au - Monday, Nov 22, 2004 at 20:15

Monday, Nov 22, 2004 at 20:15
Absolute cow manure and fraudulent claims with no basis of fact
You heard about dreamtime gear.
When you see it believe it.
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Reply By: ianmc - Monday, Nov 22, 2004 at 22:37

Monday, Nov 22, 2004 at 22:37
David Au, dont rely totally on your own understanding. Not that many years ago it would have been un thinkable that we would drive on the road turbo charged cars with variable valve timing & computer control of most functions, they were the stuff of the race track but now they are common & probably more reliable than some of the junk we had in the 50's & 60's.
Payoff comes in the higher cost & extraordinary maintenance fees demanded by the gurus that service & replace the bits that fail & they are too costly to renovate/restore when shot.
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Reply By: Baz (NSW) - Tuesday, Nov 23, 2004 at 07:19

Tuesday, Nov 23, 2004 at 07:19
This is close GPG

Or this GPG

This was all i could find on Gas powered generators.

Baz.
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Tuesday, Nov 23, 2004 at 11:32

Tuesday, Nov 23, 2004 at 11:32
Thanks Baz,
That Shanghai site looked promising, but didn't seem to have any meat on it's bones!!
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Reply By: Austravel - Tuesday, Nov 23, 2004 at 09:54

Tuesday, Nov 23, 2004 at 09:54
I have a mate that runs a large outdoor's store and travels to the major conferences at home and overseas. They tell him it's only a matter of time, Waceo are putting quite bit of research into it and do have some dramas but it's going to happen. They won't tell him when and certainly are not hinting at the near future but talk of a year or two. They suposedly have a working unit but want to have a unit that will easily run a mid sized fridge for "x" number of hours. So is it rubbish, don't know, but he just reported to me what they told people at the conference and shows he attends.
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Follow Up By: Lone Wolf - Tuesday, Nov 23, 2004 at 19:12

Tuesday, Nov 23, 2004 at 19:12
This is where it becomes interesting.

Back in March or April, I actually called Blue Apple here in Strathalbyn in South Australia, and right off the bat, posed the question.

Well, there was a pause, then something along the lines of " we're working on that... who is this calling?"

This could simply be a standard response. If you are a manufacturer of something, and someone calls you in regards to something new, of course you will answer as above! If you don't, you open up a can of worms as far as protection rights and disclosures are concerned.

Anyway...........

I did a very small amount of research, and found how the system works.
Old technology..... very old. It still has a long way to go.
The one thing you have to remember is......... you can only extract SO MUCH ENERGY from a finite source, such as a gas cylinder. Gas burns at a certain rate, and will produce a FIXED & FINITE amount of energy, not ONE JOULE MORE!

So, the claims of running a fridge for a month on a bottle of gas, which has to go through a conversion from heat to electricity, then from electricity to heat absorption, through a compressor, just doesn't seem to work out math wise to me.

The claims made on the net have been exaggerated enormously, and does not lend credence to the proposed product.

As your friend suggests, companies are working all of the time on new products, and we will see something at a later date, but to what effectiveness, I wonder....

Now, after all that..... if one came out on the market tomorrow, and worked as per purported claims, I would be the first to buy one, and rescind everything I have just written.

Cheers

Wolfie
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Follow Up By: Austravel - Wednesday, Nov 24, 2004 at 09:36

Wednesday, Nov 24, 2004 at 09:36
He didn't know how long a gas bottle would last, they told the group very little about actuals but just a broad overview. In principle it will work it's just a matter of practicalities, ie size, weight, efficiency etc for a given task. I spoke with him again last night and he is still none the wiser but has no reason to believe it's a hoax as it was first hand info. I guess we just wait and see.
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