Fraser Island Questions

Submitted: Wednesday, Nov 24, 2004 at 20:45
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I am aware there have been numerous posts asking for information about Fraser Island. I have read quite a few of these and would just like to ask a few more specific questions that could make my trip in Late Jan 2005 more enjoyable and worry-free.
What is a good time to arrive at the barge if trying to get the most travel time up the beach as the tide receeds? Also, how long, roughly would it take to drive up the beach to Dundabarra? We are wanting to take in the view yet do not want to get there with no time to set up camp.
What is the insect & dingo population doing that time of year and what is the best substance to repel the insects? I have heard the dingo are most agressive during breeding season. We are yet to get the dingo information from the rangers.
I understand that UHF coverage can be quite poor, is this correct and what is the common channel(s)?
Do you know what the cost of hot showers would be at Dundabara? and how long does this last?
Lastly, what can i expect the weather to be doing at the end of Jan?

Thanks very much for any info you could share. Any other bits of info you think might be relevant would also be greatly appreciated.
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Reply By: Crawfy - Wednesday, Nov 24, 2004 at 20:48

Wednesday, Nov 24, 2004 at 20:48
One final question. Sorry. Where is the nearest under body car wash located from Inskip point? And what can i expect to pay and receive?

Thank you.
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Follow Up By: jenkie - Thursday, Nov 25, 2004 at 19:56

Thursday, Nov 25, 2004 at 19:56
The underwater wash is well sign posted when you leave the barge and return to Rainbow. We usually use it but in September when we left the Island we had to wait for 3 barges to get back. The isalnd was crowded the line up for the wash was huge so we just came home and did the sprinkler thing
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Reply By: Member - Jack - Wednesday, Nov 24, 2004 at 21:24

Wednesday, Nov 24, 2004 at 21:24
Hi Crawfy.

I was last there in May 2003, but I suspect not much has changed.

1. Best time to arrive is right on low tide time or a little before.

2. Speed limit on the beach is 80km, but you have to slow down for the wash outs. I allowed 90 minutes for the run up the beach to Dundubera. You can take in the view without stopping and go back when camp is set up.

3. In May we had no problems with insects, but always carry some sandalwood sticks to burn if/when the mossies come out. Could be a few there in summer. Camp fire smoke also keeps them at bay.

4. In Dundubera, the Rangers will come to your tent and give you a briefing on dingo rules and regulations and they are also posted in the shower/toilet block. They also then tie a coloured ribbon to your tent which is their indication that you have been briefed (and therefore can be fined $5,000 if you are caught feeding them ....). At one stage when we were there they were wanting to close the camp ground down becasue they had noticed a change in "pattern" of the local dingoes, in that they were coming through the camp whereas they had previously skirted around it. As we had paid in advnace for the full week they could not kick us out. The dingoes came around late afternoon and also during the night but they were no trouble. Just make sure your food is inside your tent, securely locked. The little buggars can rip open a tent if food is laying around.

5. When I was there (for 8 days) I had my UHF on scan and only got one lot of chatter, from a tourist bus. The rangers will let you know which channel they use (if and when).

6. Showers cost 50 cents per 3 minutes. You can get change each day when the ranger drops by to clear out the machine, but also take plenty with you. Does not take long to eat up $20 in 50 cent coins if you like a longer shower.

7. I can't do long range weather forcasting, but it is Queensland. Expect hot, humid days and buckets of rain if it decides to drop down in the afternoon.

8. Nearest underbody cleaning joint is at Rainbow Beach, just behind the main group of shops. Can't remember the address, but it is signposed as you come off the beach and head into Rainbow Beach proper. You take a left on the way in (signposted) and it goes straight to it. Can't remember the exact cost, but I think I cut out $10 for the wash.

9. Final piece of advice - watch out for backpackers. Most of them are dead stupid in the way they drive. There are numerous incidents of them rolling the hired troopies they turn up in. I don't stop to help any more. Oh, and the police will often have radar set up along the beach, and they certainly pay their way.

Enjoy your stay there. Best place on earth in my opinion. Love the place. The Rangers are good people as well. Offer them a beer - most of the time (off duty) they will sit and chat after their rounds are finished.

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Follow Up By: MrBitchi - Thursday, Nov 25, 2004 at 09:07

Thursday, Nov 25, 2004 at 09:07
Couple of minor corrections.

2. ADVISORY speed limit is 80K. The beach is actually a gazetted highway.

6. Showers still cost 50c for 3 minutes but the price is going up to $1 for three minutes in the new year. Can't tell you the date but be prepared.
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Follow Up By: jenkie - Thursday, Nov 25, 2004 at 19:42

Thursday, Nov 25, 2004 at 19:42
Dunduberra, now has a dingo proof fence completely around the camp ground. As most of the problems occur around food you will find your camping area has no problems now. March flies bad in January just wait till they land and hit them. One trip in the early morning while everyone but me was sleeping I hit many flies but could not find them on the ground untill i was really watching and witnessed a ghost crab come out of his hole and take the flies. This happened in May and we were camping on the beach. Take plenty of shade. We take one of the fold up shade shelters that has everything attached and takes about 2 minutes to erect and take down
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Follow Up By: jenkie - Thursday, Nov 25, 2004 at 20:01

Thursday, Nov 25, 2004 at 20:01
Forgot to add, the ranger said to us - we always camp on the beach, that since the fence has gone in at Dunduberra the camping ground hasa lot more people wanting to use it. It was always overpopular at school holidays so make sure you book in early.
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Reply By: Member - Brian (Gold Coast) - Thursday, Nov 25, 2004 at 08:27

Thursday, Nov 25, 2004 at 08:27
Jack has pretty much covered it Crawfy.... I just want to add a few things.. We stayed at Dundabara Oct 03, they were in the process of building additional facilities at that stage, showers cost 50 cents/3 min. The Rangers are a wealth of info... ask them and heed their advice and you will be fine! Also there is a dingo awareness kit with the permit from Rainbow Beach rangers, read it carefully and again... listen to the rangers. (We were camping at Lake Boomanjin and met a couple who had just arrived on the island, we saw two dingo's and they wanted to feed and pat them!!!!!! SHEEESH!!!)
UHF coverage is fine... remembering that UHF is based on line-of-sight coverage and Fraser is a vast island.... just that there is no-one to talk to! Apart from the tourist buses, and the rangers when they are on channel. Youy'll have to ask them what channels they use.
I have heard that the police presence is getting stronger, it pays to remember that the east beach is a gazetted highway with an 80k speed limit, and all regular road rules apply. Watch out for the Rent-A-Troopy's crowded with back-packers who mostly haven't a clue what they're doing... they can be very dangerous.
Dundabara is a pleasant (about) 90 minute run up the beach, there's a lot to see on the way, it pays to keep an eye for planes that use the beach as a landing strip in places... they have the right of way!! I heard a couple of nights back that Eli Creek is now a shadow of it's former glory, storms have changed it's path and it isn't as much fun as it was, but probably still a good spot for a freshwater swim.
We used Bushmans Ultra roll-on repellant and it worked a treat, BUT it is very strong stuff and some people have had allergic reactions to it, so "test" it before you go. At Dundabara, the flies were there in the zillions, also march flies are present on the island and they bite like buggery! Don't let it spoil your trip there though, just find a good repellant!!
Qld in January can be fun.... :-) We have hot humid days with sometimes big sub tropical storms at night. My bride and I spent an hour last January long weekend holding our tent down against the rain and wind while the storm raged around us! Mostly 'cos we had picked a not-very-good spot to beach camp and hadn't got our tent set up correct! We have endured storms (albeit not so big) at Dundabara and survived quite well... more shelter there from the wind than where we were in January.
Lastly, depending on how long you're visiting, it's worth a visit to Champagne Pools, Wathumba Creek, and the inland tracks take you to some beautiful lakes, and the driving on some of the tracks is quite fun!!

Sorry this has been a bit long winded, but Fraser Island is one of my favourite subjects... LOL..... if you have any other questions, leave a follow-up here and I'll try to answer them.... if I can't, there will be someone else here that can!

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Reply By: Rosco - Bris. - Thursday, Nov 25, 2004 at 13:19

Thursday, Nov 25, 2004 at 13:19
Crawfy

All of the above is excellent info.

Add this ... don't rely solely on the underbody carwash. I've used it a few times and still manage to hose out a barrow load of sand ... well .. would you believe a fair bit, when I get home. So much so that I tend to pass it up as basically a waste of 10 bucks.

Cheers and enjoy your trip.
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Follow Up By: beatit - Thursday, Nov 25, 2004 at 16:51

Thursday, Nov 25, 2004 at 16:51
Someone told me that thay also recycle the water (so as not to polute the waterways with all that oil etc). Sounds like washing your car with salt water to me! Stopped doing it a while back just use the garden sprinkler under the car routine - this works OK.

Kind regards
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Follow Up By: Member - Chrispy (NSW) - Sunday, Nov 28, 2004 at 12:56

Sunday, Nov 28, 2004 at 12:56
Re; the Rainbow Beach underbody wash, I also think that they use a mix of kero and water, and the kero deposits an oily film over everything which is a good thing. Don't know anout the salt from repeated washing cycles though. Hmm... not so good....
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Reply By: Member - Jack - Thursday, Nov 25, 2004 at 16:50

Thursday, Nov 25, 2004 at 16:50
Crawfy:

If th is is your first trip, you may be interested in a book I found most useful. Called "Fraser Island" by Brad McCarthy, it really gets you around the place with a minimum of fuss.

You buy it from this website.

Jack
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Reply By: sully - Thursday, Nov 25, 2004 at 21:34

Thursday, Nov 25, 2004 at 21:34
G'Day Crawfy

I was at Fraser 3 weeks ago and it was my 1st trip there..... It is a great place. Couple of things I discovered.

Pretty Hard to tell with the tides. I arrived at hook point about 1 hour before low tide. There was a fair bit of soft sand for about 1k till you reached the eastern beach then no worries. However on the way back six days later the place looked totally different. Seeing that the arrival was no drama I thought I would try for 2 hours before low which was at 4. Arrived at hook point and I didn't recognised the place. The erosion was that great that several large trees had fell over the beach. and you had to drive around them to get to the barge. (unless you went back and took the inland track) I wasn't real keen to Dip the car into the ocean, pick the waves and go for it, however after waiting for about 15 mins and seeing others arriving from the other way and getting away with it around I went and it was no real drama, cept for a salt water car wash !! Dead Low is that way to go if you want to have a stress free arrival and depature.

Went straight to Dundaburra and the travel time the others have suggested is about right. New facilities were still being built. Showers as stated 50c for 3 mins and yeah flies are a problem. Had a look around the top of the island Indian head etc etc then decided to head to central station. A much more pleasent camp ground showers $1.00 for 6 mins. Great place to base yourself to check out the lakes (which are fantastic) and the inland tracks are much more fun !! Stayed there for another 4 nights and loved it.

Have no idea about UHF channels.

Have a great Holiday You will love it (cept might be a bit crowded that time of year)

Cheers

PS Don't buy fuel at Kingfisher Bay !!! 1.70 per L with others on the island at 1.40 (diesel)
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Reply By: Crawfy - Saturday, Nov 27, 2004 at 15:28

Saturday, Nov 27, 2004 at 15:28
Thanks for all the information. I haven't bee able to get half as much from searching the internet. I did have one other question if anyone could help. What is the access from the beach to Dundabarra like? Is it pure soft sand all the way or is the track boarded?
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Follow Up By: jenkie - Saturday, Nov 27, 2004 at 20:09

Saturday, Nov 27, 2004 at 20:09
From memory. the up track is boarded up and where not boarded is firm. The down track not borded and can become soft. As downhill usally not a problem but keep the momentum going. We have snatched a loaded car and trailer out. They were camping on the beach and had gone in to fill water tanks up to the max and bogged on the way out. We haven't had a problem but we only go in there occasionly to collect timber if our own supplies have run low. We camp on the beach approx 11k's or so north of Dundaburra. Much prefer this way of camping. Nothing like having a drink watching the moon rising over the water or the sun rising over the water.
Have just read on the overlander forum that as of October 2004 no timber will be supplied to the Island. You will have to have a fire in ringed pits and will have to bring your own timber which has to be milled timber and not scrub timber so not to bring in unwanted pests or probably IMO so that they know you are not using Fraser Island Timber. We have taken our own timber up each year for at least the last 5 or 6 years so it will not be a problem for us.
Have a great time.
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