SA VIC WA Diving

Submitted: Monday, Nov 29, 2004 at 11:30
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I’ve heard some divers telling about lack of life, shore dives devoid of life, in the 40-50 range. This probably means that there are some fresh water seepages over there. That’s what I am interested in… Could anyone suggest a location? Would anyone know about sub-sea sources offshore SA VIC or WA, within 3 or 5 miles from the coasts?
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Reply By: Member Eric - Monday, Nov 29, 2004 at 18:49

Monday, Nov 29, 2004 at 18:49
I have no idea about what your talking about lol . Member John might
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Follow Up By: Bitsumishin - Mike (WA) - Monday, Nov 29, 2004 at 20:06

Monday, Nov 29, 2004 at 20:06
Maybe the question comes from mis-spelling diving & the search engine finding driving as in 4x4 but given the vast knowledge that regularly is expoused from this forum, perhaps word has just spread that this is the place for answers.
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Follow Up By: Member Eric - Monday, Nov 29, 2004 at 20:09

Monday, Nov 29, 2004 at 20:09
lol . Well try any google search withought eo coming up , its imposible lol
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Follow Up By: Member - George (WA) - Monday, Nov 29, 2004 at 20:20

Monday, Nov 29, 2004 at 20:20
I'm with Eric.
Yvemail, you need to be clearer with your question.
Are you talking about driving or do you want information on Diving conditions.
Not sure what you mean by 40-50 ???
However, I can help you with DIVING information in WA if that is what you are after
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Follow Up By: Willem - Monday, Nov 29, 2004 at 21:04

Monday, Nov 29, 2004 at 21:04
What about the Keyword Searches....Cooking and Water...hahahahaha

The fella is talking about scuba diving or something related. Must've got the wrong website. The only thing we do with water here is snorkelling while crossing rivers,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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Follow Up By: Yvemail - Tuesday, Nov 30, 2004 at 12:37

Tuesday, Nov 30, 2004 at 12:37
You're right, mates. Funny forum stuff. I'm still meditating on the deep well hidden meaning of associating 'cooking' with 'navigation'. Sort of steaming fish with hot springs? sorry! but don't go to far in your brain storming; I get lost myself!

"Every great idea goes through three phases before it is accepted. In the first it is rejected. In the second it is ridiculed. And in the third it is held to be self evident" to paraphrase Arthur Schopenhauer. But better forget about this (great) German philosophe too...

Let's turn to Robert and Wolfie for the third phase!
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Reply By: Lone Wolf - Monday, Nov 29, 2004 at 18:56

Monday, Nov 29, 2004 at 18:56
Interesting......

Down in the Fleriueu Peninsula here in South Australia, the Government has capped a lot of bores.
The bores are primarily used for watering Grape Vines, and the acreage has skyrocketed.

The concern is that the water table will be prematurely depleted, and it will allow sea-water to permeate, which over a period of time, will increase salinity, rendering the water table useless.

In Adelaide City, the local council has embarked on a program of actually pumping water back into a water table, through a bore hole drilled for the purpose. The idea is a test to see if it is a feasible storage solution for dry months.

I suppose if a table is full during the winter, then it will of course have to seep out into the ocean, but surely only during late spring and early summer.

Cheers

Wolfie
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Follow Up By: Lone Wolf - Monday, Nov 29, 2004 at 19:06

Monday, Nov 29, 2004 at 19:06
Yvemai...

Can you please email me? Click my Rig Pic for addy.

Cheers

Wolfie
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Follow Up By: Member Eric - Monday, Nov 29, 2004 at 19:12

Monday, Nov 29, 2004 at 19:12
No I am even more confused after your reply
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Follow Up By: Yvemail - Tuesday, Nov 30, 2004 at 12:47

Tuesday, Nov 30, 2004 at 12:47
I am far from being a specialist, no doubt. This is why I cannot help wondering if it is not falsely believed that land salination comes as a result of forest destruction. Cannot it be a result of blind random boring onshore of the littoral aquifer?

Groundwater pumping may lead to lower the level of the hydraulic charge and facilitate the infiltration of salt water through breaks into the geological formations. In general, seawater occupies part of the aquifer close to the littoral, according to the head of soft water, the refill of the aquifer and the permeability. Any significant modification of the aquifer by taking away excessive amount of water breaks the balance and causes an intrusion of salt.

In the case of the exploitation of karstic aquifer littorals it is even more difficult because of the existence of open conduits which sometimes means that seawater can penetrate very easily. Besides, conduits are organized as underground networks. Tapping randomly the aquifer on the littoral with blind drillings presents a heavy risk of contamination of the whole system by intrusion of salt water. Any disturbance is likely to insert the seawater deeply in the aquifer.

Then, it probably turns to be far less hazardous and perfectly safe (with an uninterrupted monitoring of salinity) to tap fresh water directly at its source (which is usually the converging point of various conduits) even if it is located under the sea level offshore, than to try to identify a tiny part of its conduits onshore and risk to contaminate the entire underground system.

Actually the process is successfully developed in the Mediterranean basin, and I would like SA VIC and WA government to implement it now!

Sorry, it was a bit long. But NOW: could anyone help me at locating a high potential zone of exploration! and after have a bite!

(by the way. the above is copyrighted!... and the process is patented!...)
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Follow Up By: Willem - Tuesday, Nov 30, 2004 at 13:38

Tuesday, Nov 30, 2004 at 13:38
Yvemail

Geez you had me confused in the beginning and almost got me the second time. Whilst using words which are rarely spoken on this forum I deduct that you imply that as a result of random drilling in to the water table and by removing water from it, we are reducing the pressure that has been sustained by the acquifer and that ingress of seawater could be the possible causing for the salination of the land and not necessarily from the denuding of trees and forests?

You could have a point as in many cases where drilling for water has taken place the result has been very salty and unusable in human terms.

Your premise is that we should be drilling for water where it enters the ocean?

Not quite sure that this subject is for the likes of this forum but it is interesting to say the least. I know that there is quite a bit of offshore exploration activity in the seas off the Eyre Peninsula where fossil fuels are being sought.
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Reply By: floyd - Tuesday, Nov 30, 2004 at 17:48

Tuesday, Nov 30, 2004 at 17:48
Mate what are you on????? Try a diving website. This is for off road vehicles.
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Follow Up By: Lone Wolf - Tuesday, Nov 30, 2004 at 17:59

Tuesday, Nov 30, 2004 at 17:59
Some vehicles do get, well....... a bit stuck in the ocean...LOL!!

Nah..... it's a good post, he obviously thought the crew here could give him some info.
I would think that a lot of us have boats & stuff as well.

Anyway.......... way better than some posts we've seen here in the last week!! Mine included.....LOL!!

..... and I learnt words....... " karstic aquifer littorals" don't know what they mean, but I seen 'em!!

Cheers

Wolfie

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Follow Up By: Yvemail - Tuesday, Nov 30, 2004 at 21:18

Tuesday, Nov 30, 2004 at 21:18
Maybe I'd better given no explanations... Thanks anyway for the responses I've got, truly. (still wondering about "cooking"). Cheers.
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Follow Up By: Mad Dog (Victoria) - Tuesday, Nov 30, 2004 at 21:47

Tuesday, Nov 30, 2004 at 21:47
Good luck with your quest. Maybe you can find some answers on a more appropriate forum on the web or usenet but I'm not surprised that you get little joy from a 4x4 and travel forum...far out
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Follow Up By: Lone Wolf - Tuesday, Nov 30, 2004 at 21:49

Tuesday, Nov 30, 2004 at 21:49
Yvemail.............

Please keep us up to speed on your findings, well, at least me anyway............. you've got my email addy.

As I said in my email to you, this finding of yours deserves more attention, and I sincerely hope you attract it.

Kind regards............

Wolfie
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Follow Up By: Yvemail - Wednesday, Dec 01, 2004 at 10:58

Wednesday, Dec 01, 2004 at 10:58
G'day Mad Dog! The funny thing is that I've got more information through your forum than Divers' ones... Bush and Ocean, actually it's pretty much the same downunder! Wish me to be successful. Next dream is to get a 4x4 to "dive" in the bush. Cheers!
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Follow Up By: Yvemail - Wednesday, Dec 01, 2004 at 11:11

Wednesday, Dec 01, 2004 at 11:11
Thanks Wolfie. you've got it! I am pretty sure that contrary to the official view which is that 'groundwater discharge is likely to be diffused in WA', the Nullarbor plain discharges in natural subsea springs close to the coasts. I am kind of a bit stubborn or stupid, but who ever knows... Maybe somebody will help to find a spring offshore Capel or Bunbury, my favorite target at the moment... Albany is not bad either, just ask the whales, they know! Catch up!
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