Recovery Points
Submitted: Tuesday, Nov 30, 2004 at 14:43
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derraux
Has anybody fiited recovery points to a pajero I have a 1992 v6 and was told that you cannot buy off the shelf point for these (not supposed to take them off road salesperson said) , I found you can buy a hook from people like arb ect. but are not sure of the do's and dont's of fitting , Can you drill through chassis ect ? At the rear it looks like there are two bolt holes that could be used not sure strength of these? but the front has one hole going straight through the rail with no thread, it is reinforced with a bit of tube welded each end i think this would be strong enough but no place for second bolt .
Thanks in advance for any help
Derraux
ps sorry about spelling , punctuation ect.
Reply By: MrBitchi - Tuesday, Nov 30, 2004 at 15:31
Tuesday, Nov 30, 2004 at 15:31
Derraux,
I wouldn't bother going back to that ignoramus salesman. A 1992 NH Pajero is a very capable off-roader.
Mine had a recovery point fitted to the front of the right hand chassis rail as standard equipment (fits under the rail, hanging down). If yours is missing have a look at one at a wreckers yard or car dealer and you'll see how it's fitted. The rear point is a loop bolted onto the centre of the rear chassis crossmember with 4 bolts. This may have been removed to install a towbar, in which case use the receiver pin of the towbar.
This site Pajero club has a wealth of information about your vehicle.
John
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Follow Up By: derraux - Tuesday, Nov 30, 2004 at 16:58
Tuesday, Nov 30, 2004 at 16:58
John this hook you are talking about is only welded on i was told this is not sufficient for snatch recovery
derraux
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Follow Up By: MrBitchi - Wednesday, Dec 01, 2004 at 08:39
Wednesday, Dec 01, 2004 at 08:39
Mate,
That's what it's put there for (recovery use). I had occasion to use
mine a couple of times, no problems.
As I said, go to the Pajero Club
forum. There are some very knowledgeable people there.
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Reply By: Member Eric - Tuesday, Nov 30, 2004 at 16:48
Tuesday, Nov 30, 2004 at 16:48
Agree with above post . have fitted many to the front chassis of pajeros , make sure there ratted
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Follow Up By: derraux - Tuesday, Nov 30, 2004 at 17:00
Tuesday, Nov 30, 2004 at 17:00
Eric did yo u have to drill into rail and is this allowed
Derraux
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Follow Up By: Member Eric - Tuesday, Nov 30, 2004 at 17:07
Tuesday, Nov 30, 2004 at 17:07
we didnt drill anything, we just 10" steel plate to the shape of the side rail drilled holes were the bolts for the bullbar bolt onto , made a sloted hole at the bottom were our shackle goes into
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Follow Up By: derraux - Tuesday, Nov 30, 2004 at 17:18
Tuesday, Nov 30, 2004 at 17:18
Eric Thanks for that will have a go at that do you just use a rated d shackle in that
derraux
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Follow Up By: derraux - Tuesday, Nov 30, 2004 at 17:20
Tuesday, Nov 30, 2004 at 17:20
Eric forgot to ask how thick was the plate you used
Derraux
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Follow Up By: Member Eric - Tuesday, Nov 30, 2004 at 17:32
Tuesday, Nov 30, 2004 at 17:32
sorry above i stated 10" instead of 10 mm lol , Yes ratted shackle on the end . If your handy with metal , make a u bracket to bolt to both sides of the chassis , then wield your end piece on , make sure , its a very heavy duty wielder , it must penetrate all the way through . if you are in
melbourne , I would be more than happy to wield it on for you .
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Follow Up By: derraux - Tuesday, Nov 30, 2004 at 17:51
Tuesday, Nov 30, 2004 at 17:51
Eric Thanks but unfortunantly im in W.A I assume u mean make u braket out of 10m plate bolt to both sides of chassis at bull bar mount then add a piece of 10mm plate for shackle making sure u weld penetration is good enough to take load, thanks for all your help it's been great
Derraux
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Follow Up By: MrBitchi - Wednesday, Dec 01, 2004 at 08:49
Wednesday, Dec 01, 2004 at 08:49
Eric,
I fail to see how a piece of 10mm plate, which you cut to shape, can be "rated". Do you have an engineers certificate for the bracket?
The fact that the original hook is welded on is irrelevant. Even current model Pajeros have the recovery hooks (loops actually) welded on to the front. Some time back an article was published in one of the 4wd mags (have a copy if you wish) where Mitsubishi Australia engineers tested these recovery points to see if they would fail in real world use. They passed with flying colours. They were also looking to see if repeated recoveries would distort the monocoque structure. Again it passed with flying colours.
Derraux, I would feel much safer doing a recovery with the manufacturers recovery hook than I ever would using an "unrated" bracket I made up.
John
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Follow Up By: Member Eric - Thursday, Dec 02, 2004 at 08:06
Thursday, Dec 02, 2004 at 08:06
All good questions Mr Bitchi .
The post did go from left to right . lol
In my first reply I said to make sure he gets a ratted point . Then the question was asked , of how we do it . This is why i explained what WE do .
If you fit a Steel plate that is thicker than the chassis itself and is fitted with the correct bolts , it dosnt need to be engineered , there is no welding to xray or inspect .
My second suggestion of a u shape braket , that requires welding , I asked if he was in
Melbourne so I could do it for him. All the brackets i make are done at A.G.E . which we are lucky enough to have all the latest CNC machines and yes they are engineers.
Hope this helps
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Follow Up By: MrBitchi - Thursday, Dec 02, 2004 at 08:45
Thursday, Dec 02, 2004 at 08:45
Thanks for the clarification Eric, but I still don't see why you (and others) don't think the standard recovery point is up to the task.
John
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Follow Up By: Member Eric - Thursday, Dec 02, 2004 at 17:29
Thursday, Dec 02, 2004 at 17:29
John , check my replies , I never said that they wern't lol . i just informed of what we do . Reason for this ? If we dont recover , we dont feel we have gone hard enough lol.
Have had to winch and snack My mates paj so many times this year it isnt funny, not due to the cars ability mind you . It's all go to do with how mad he is . Want to climb everything and go through everything . Some of the
forum members know who i am talking about lol.
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Reply By: Patrolman Pat - Tuesday, Nov 30, 2004 at 17:55
Tuesday, Nov 30, 2004 at 17:55
derraux i fitted two rated hooks to my navara ute. It's best to use two if you can as it spreads and centalises the load of a recovery. I drilled through the chassis rails and fitted crush tube and used high tensile bolts.
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Follow Up By: derraux - Tuesday, Nov 30, 2004 at 18:15
Tuesday, Nov 30, 2004 at 18:15
Pat thanks for that ill have a look at that option too I assume you are allowed to drill through legaly
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Reply By: Plugger - Tuesday, Nov 30, 2004 at 21:09
Tuesday, Nov 30, 2004 at 21:09
Derraux - When I had my 92 Pajero Opposite Lock fitted a recovery hook on the back using the holes you have found on yours. They used a bracket, whih looked ready made, to fit it. Bolted straight on. Not sure where you are but if near an Opposite Lock go and see them Plugger.
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