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Submitted: Thursday, Dec 02, 2004 at 21:09
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If you were to have two sets of tyres for a 100 TD IFS Landcruiser, one for sand/highway and one for mud and the other rough stuff, which ones would you pick.

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Reply By: Bonz (Vic) - Thursday, Dec 02, 2004 at 22:31

Thursday, Dec 02, 2004 at 22:31
Cooper ST's (or BFG AT's) for the road and sand and BFG muddies for the mud, no question about it.
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Follow Up By: Member - 'Lucy' - Thursday, Dec 02, 2004 at 23:17

Thursday, Dec 02, 2004 at 23:17
Bonz, Bonz, Bonz,

Those big lights have produced excessive lumen radiation to the extent that its affected your thought processes.

I'm sure you meant Cooper ST's for the Road and sand

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Cooper STT'S for the mud .

If not ,could you please elucidate as to what University of Rubber Appreciation that you attended to aquire your degree in Vehicular Tarmac Adhesion quantification.

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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Friday, Dec 03, 2004 at 16:42

Friday, Dec 03, 2004 at 16:42
Its easy Lucy, I have almost worn out BFG AT's on the car, next tyres will be ST's, I have almost new BFG Muddies in the shed, theyre spectacular, and free. And I just love muddies, (not Muddy's)
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Reply By: Steve - Thursday, Dec 02, 2004 at 22:55

Thursday, Dec 02, 2004 at 22:55
You wouldn't be Jim Conway by any chance ?
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Follow Up By: Member - Jim - Friday, Dec 03, 2004 at 18:41

Friday, Dec 03, 2004 at 18:41
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Reply By: Well 55 - Friday, Dec 03, 2004 at 07:05

Friday, Dec 03, 2004 at 07:05
I have at present, Yokohama A/T+11 for the road and BFG MT for everything else.

And at this stage don't see the need to change to anything else. Both sets in 265/75/16.
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Reply By: fozzy - Friday, Dec 03, 2004 at 07:23

Friday, Dec 03, 2004 at 07:23
jim
285/75/16 bfg a/t and bfg m/t in my opinion
both give you little bit more height with minimal speedo difference
a/t are suitable for quite a bit of trails etc ,sand ,deserts and long distance dirt travel.
also depends on what mud and rough stuff you talk about
if real serious stuff then may go simex or baja claws etc for the mud but (generally) these are not the best for bitumen travel to and from your play areas
so many variables and opinions(bit like toyotas nissan thing
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Reply By: Outnabout David (SA) - Friday, Dec 03, 2004 at 08:31

Friday, Dec 03, 2004 at 08:31
If the vehicle is new i would stick with the Grandtrek for the road and Goodyear MTR for everything else. When the grandtrek wear out worry about the road tyre then. May as well get your money's worth out bthe tyres
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Reply By: MrBitchi - Friday, Dec 03, 2004 at 09:26

Friday, Dec 03, 2004 at 09:26
Stick with a pure Highway pattern or AT's for one set and an STT/MTR for the other set. Can see no point in ST's for highway when you have STT's for dirt, not enough difference in capability to warrant the hassle of swapping sets.
A standard Highway tyre at low pressure is fine in the sand.
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Reply By: GO_OFFROAD - Friday, Dec 03, 2004 at 10:04

Friday, Dec 03, 2004 at 10:04
Changed afew vehicles from Coopers to MTRs of late, and they cant believe the MTR drives better, turns in better, much nicer in the wet, and is no where near as noisy, and they had STT's and ST's fitted.

If running 2 sets the Good Year ATR is the road/sand go for sure, and if wanting a pure play/mud tyre, the Super swamper LTB 34 x 10.5 / 16.

[Not affiliated with any brand, only those that work best we have tested I recommend]
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Follow Up By: GO_OFFROAD - Friday, Dec 03, 2004 at 10:14

Friday, Dec 03, 2004 at 10:14
forgot to add,
here is a pic of a 120 we fitted 34x10.5/16 swampers too lastw eek, which drive well, for a swamper,a nd of course work well too.

We did a 80mm lift on this 120 a while ago as well.

<img src=http://www.the-shed.net/images/simons%20120.jpg"
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Follow Up By: GO_OFFROAD - Friday, Dec 03, 2004 at 10:16

Friday, Dec 03, 2004 at 10:16
120 swampers
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Friday, Dec 03, 2004 at 10:54

Friday, Dec 03, 2004 at 10:54
HT's for the road, drive best, handles conditions on road the best...

either Swampers, JT2's, Centipedes, Claws for offroad, depending where you live, and what terrain you encounter most. Why go with a MT for offroad, when most use them onroad? Go with a serious offroad tire.

I run 33x12.5 MTR's on road, and 34x11.5 (measure as 35s) Simex JT2's offroad.
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Follow Up By: GO_OFFROAD - Friday, Dec 03, 2004 at 14:42

Friday, Dec 03, 2004 at 14:42
Stay away from directional tyres for offroad, the tread cleans one way, and blocks its self up the other, like going dowhill, and braking......
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Reply By: Rhubarb - Friday, Dec 03, 2004 at 11:15

Friday, Dec 03, 2004 at 11:15
For on road and sand I would go the Cooper ST. Also good for some unexpected mud.

Cooper ST

For offroad I would go Simex Extreme Trekker II, throughly a kick arse tire.

Simex Extreme Trekker
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Reply By: Member - Peter (on the move) - Friday, Dec 03, 2004 at 11:45

Friday, Dec 03, 2004 at 11:45
After much experiencein this area (similar quandry to you earlier this year) stick with standard tyres on vehicle for road and sand (14 psi in sand for perormance) and go for a MT +++ spec for the tough stuff. Unless you are doing extremely hard stuf with the MT go for a less expensive option than coopers.

Cheers,

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Reply By: Member - Chrispy (NSW) - Friday, Dec 03, 2004 at 11:50

Friday, Dec 03, 2004 at 11:50
I've taken the Cooper ST option for day to day and sand/easy mud use.

I'm thinking of another set for rocks and harder mud - and look like getting a set of cheapo Motorway Mongrels (re-birthed, not re-tread) for the harder stuff. I usually bust a tyre on these little trips (ripped the sidewalls out of 5 BFG muddies over the last 3 years) so I reckon that these are cheap enough to throw away when I do another. I accept the fact that they have limitations, but for a second set of tyres that I expect to kill anyway - they are my best bet at this stage.
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Follow Up By: Member- Peter & Mrs Peter, Lez - Saturday, Dec 04, 2004 at 17:46

Saturday, Dec 04, 2004 at 17:46
Dont think I would be persisting with a tyre that I had busted the sidewalls 5 times in 3 yrs. IMHO.
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Follow Up By: Member - Chrispy (NSW) - Sunday, Dec 05, 2004 at 00:14

Sunday, Dec 05, 2004 at 00:14
I have to give the BFG's credit though - we really did pound them on the rocks.... and at very low pressures. There were just no other tyres around at the time. The muddies were the bee's knees back then - but we killed them anyway. Swampers were too expensive and required a fair more lift than we had the budget for :(
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Reply By: Member - Jim - Saturday, Dec 04, 2004 at 03:58

Saturday, Dec 04, 2004 at 03:58
Thanks to all for the advice. Current tyres are BFG All Terrains. They have been up the Oodnadatta track (heavily loaded), across the Simpson (French Line), through the corner country and around Broken Hill twice, around the Blue Mountains a bit, across to Adelaide a couple of times and collectively done 55,000 kms. The first four are still on the road (probably still have +15,000 left) and the two spares have only collected dust.
A friend wanted to get rid of his spare rims having gone to alloys so I got the four of them for $50. Next big trip is the Anne Beadell Hwy. So I guess I'll put on a set of Muddies for the second set and stay with what I have as the highway set.

Again, many thanks to all.
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