LPG energy cell revisited...
Submitted: Saturday, Dec 04, 2004 at 16:10
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Lone Wolf
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well, sort of...
I have seen this sort of thread come up a few times, whereby a large fridge or RAPS manufacturer is playing around with the idea of using LPG to convert heat into useable electricity.
Well, It will probably happen, one day, and be good enough to power small things.
Consider this....
I cannot think why a group of people
camping or touring would really want one of these, except to power a fridge. Everything else we have runs fine using the current technology that we have now.
So, a compressor fridge is the go, especially if you are on the go, and the 3 way is best on gas, and draws way too much electricity to be a viable contender whilst touring.
So....
How come we cant have a fridge with both operating systems?
Really, ponder it...... it would be using available technology, not reinventing the wheel, and be efficient in all modes of power usage.
Now, I'm not a fridge tech dude, but I know there are some on this
forum, who may be able to tell us either why it can't be done..... or why I'm an intelligent. forward thinking, inventive guy.....
So, I guess the first step is to see if it can be done, and then see if It's viable. Imagine, no solar panels, extra batteries and stuff....... just a gas bottle!
Cheers
Wolfie
Reply By: David Au - Saturday, Dec 04, 2004 at 16:53
Saturday, Dec 04, 2004 at 16:53
It is all dream time stuff and downright lies that there is a portable cheap solution on the horizon. Just another scam from scammers and purveyors of misinformation. You need to realise, if any of this was factual it would be on the front of the worlds newspapers.
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Reply By: Member - Sparkie (QLD) - Saturday, Dec 04, 2004 at 20:16
Saturday, Dec 04, 2004 at 20:16
It would be nice to have that technology today. they can make electronics on such a minute scale you need a microscope just to see the parts involved(eg CPU's in computers) and they are toying with some amazing technology to make thing faster and smaller so maybe one day BOOM it might just happen.
They use gas now to create electricity in substations so instead of thinking big these guys need to make it smaller?
Just fancifull thinking for now but if you ever invented something like that Wolf meister I would probably buy one of you( at mates rates of course) ;-)
Sparkie(IE not Y) ;-)
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Follow Up By: Lone Wolf - Saturday, Dec 04, 2004 at 20:58
Saturday, Dec 04, 2004 at 20:58
" but if you ever invented something like that Wolf meister I would probably buy one "
Bugger......
I was throwing down the gauntlet!!!
I want someone else to make it, and call it.....
ARCTIC WOLF ™®
How cool is that!!
Cheers
I'm gonna be rich on royalties Wolf...
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Follow Up By: Member - Bradley- Sunday, Dec 05, 2004 at 00:54
Sunday, Dec 05, 2004 at 00:54
Hey sparks, the gas powered small power stations use fairly large gas turbine engines spinning generators , so even 'downsized' would still cost about 5-8 million....
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Reply By: Member - Sparkie (QLD) - Sunday, Dec 05, 2004 at 11:29
Sunday, Dec 05, 2004 at 11:29
Bradley, I guess mates rates wont get me very far then?
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Reply By: Member - Collyn R (WA) - Sunday, Dec 05, 2004 at 14:39
Sunday, Dec 05, 2004 at 14:39
David Au is right re this. Most of what is published on portable low-priced fuel cells is fantasy.
The technology exists. The products exist. But right now the only fuel cell on the commercial market that even vaguely would do the job costs over A$10,000.
We will eventually see these things. At one time I thought it be by the end of 2005 but people who really know about this field now forecast commercial availablity of a 750-1000 watt 12-volt unit at less than $1000 to be unlikely before 2010.
But it is a matter of when - not if.
In the meantime most of the drum beating is to attract venture capital.
I have just written an update on fuel cells. It is published in the current CMCA 'The Wanderer' magazine. I will post a version of it on my website later this week.
Collyn Rivers
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