Fuel Savers
Submitted: Tuesday, Dec 07, 2004 at 15:17
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Rod W
Seems we have another one ie "Bi-tron" with a lot of hype like so many others that don't live up to what is implied.
Reply By: GO_OFFROAD - Tuesday, Dec 07, 2004 at 16:03
Tuesday, Dec 07, 2004 at 16:03
Its been around for many years, and I tested some when they first bought it in, now Im the ultimate sceptic, but some small gains were noticed when used as directed, but saw nothing like the claims the current advertising says.
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Reply By: Member -Dodger - Tuesday, Dec 07, 2004 at 17:55
Tuesday, Dec 07, 2004 at 17:55
Its like the HI-clone a lot of balderdash.
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Follow Up By: Member - David 0- Tuesday, Dec 07, 2004 at 19:22
Tuesday, Dec 07, 2004 at 19:22
The Hiclone amazes me.
Correct me if I am wrong, but the claim is that by making the airflow more turbulent you get better mixing and therefore better consumption.
The airflow through an inlet manifold past a butterfly valve and then into a head via an inlet valve would not strike me as being particularly laminar. I'd suggest the turbulence is already imeasurably high.
Just my opinion
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Tuesday, Dec 07, 2004 at 20:42
Tuesday, Dec 07, 2004 at 20:42
Amazes me too David, but it works....for me.
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Follow Up By: Savvas - Tuesday, Dec 07, 2004 at 21:53
Tuesday, Dec 07, 2004 at 21:53
I've noticed that anyone that is happy with their Hiclone is usually the owner of a 4.5 petrol Patrol.
So, it must be having some benefit in that application.
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Follow Up By: troy - Wednesday, Dec 08, 2004 at 12:16
Wednesday, Dec 08, 2004 at 12:16
I tried two hiclone rings in my hilux - drove to
melbourne and back didn't see any noticable difference with fuel economy or power so took them back and got a full refund no questions asked.
You have nothing to lose bar the 5 minutes it takes to install them
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Wednesday, Dec 08, 2004 at 20:01
Wednesday, Dec 08, 2004 at 20:01
Mines a 3litre
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Reply By: Andrew - Wednesday, Dec 08, 2004 at 16:17
Wednesday, Dec 08, 2004 at 16:17
Some aftermarket systems improve fuel economy on carburetted engines because they increase turbulence (you could use flywire) which promotes better fuel to air mixing which lets the fuel burn more effectively.Unfortunately the extra restirction usually cuts down the max power because it prevents full air flow at wider throttle openings.
None of this should have any effect on fuel injected engines because the injector spray pattern detrmines the mixing and stuffing in other devices will probably only upset the airflow past the injector which may reduce mixing!
As far as diesels go. All the mixing occurs inside the cylinder and is controlled by the piston and cylinder head shape and stuffing bits into the manifold will only cut down on airflow and potentially cause overfueling.
I find it interesting that these devices never seem to be advertised with indipendant "blind" testing against standard vehicles, but instead rely on testimonials. I know I can increase my fuel consumption by 10% just by letting SWMBO drive. So if I want to show dramatic improvements I let her do the first test??
regards
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Reply By: rb30s - Wednesday, Dec 08, 2004 at 20:23
Wednesday, Dec 08, 2004 at 20:23
Re. the Hiclone. I'm a sceptic! It seems to me that Hiclones or something similar would be more beneficial on the exhaust side of a head (with a six cylinder you would need six, or maybe seven if you include a larger one further down the exhaust) as there is a lot larger volume of gas needing to be moved through quickly on the exhaust side then on the inlet side. What do others think?
Adrian
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