F 350 FIRST DRIVE
Submitted: Wednesday, Dec 08, 2004 at 19:51
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Davoe
I have driven the work F350 round town but tomorrow I will be taking it up to Yilgangi about 15k n/e of kalgoorlie to tow back the caravan and generator. There have been a few posts from people toying with the idea of purchasing these behemoths for heavy duty caravans or big campers so I f anyone has any qs I will try and answer them 4u. I guess my initial impression is that it would be wrong to think of them as a true 4by as their size makes them a genuine truck (actually you need a truck licence to drive them) and they would be impracticle for most
Reply By: Utemad - Wednesday, Dec 08, 2004 at 20:05
Wednesday, Dec 08, 2004 at 20:05
We've got 2 F250s for work. Dual cabs so they are 6.3m long. You're right that they are not suitable for your normal 4x4ing however they make very nice tow vehicles and have a very useable tray too. Best suited to rural type areas though. they suck around town. However I will be hopefully taking one to Kroombit Tops
State Forest next week so I hope the tracks are big enough. Bit far to go home and get my Rodeo.
However I would be interested to know how your work F350 goes for reliability. We have had some issues with both of ours. Most have occurred in both utes so they were not a one off issue.
Also how is the air con in yours? Both of ours have pitiful aircon. It stuggles in the Queensland Summer.
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Follow Up By: Davoe - Wednesday, Dec 08, 2004 at 20:13
Wednesday, Dec 08, 2004 at 20:13
I know it sucks for reliability already it is as good as brand new and it already has had clutch pipework melt because apparantly a clip broke or something and it came in close proximity to the turbo (this is as it was described to me- when I started it was in the
shop being repaired)
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Reply By: Lone Wolf - Wednesday, Dec 08, 2004 at 20:35
Wednesday, Dec 08, 2004 at 20:35
I would soooooo much like to have one, just for one day.......
There are a few people whom I regularly see on the way to work each morning, of which some need a small lesson in road rules & etiquette.
Now, by me having a F350, this is sort of like having an instrument of don't mess with me. Like that advert we used to see on the telly, whereby the woman runs out of milk in the morning, and has to go to the deli to buy some more, in her dressing gown, and clobbers the dude with the gun.
What's the song title? " No milk today?".
My song in the Ford would be Steppenwolf's "Born to be Wild".
Yes, I reckon I could change a few peoples day with one of those.......
Funny thing though, it wouldn't even have to be a 4 x 4. 2 wheel drive would do! I'm sure Channel 9 would still call it a 4 x 4.
Cheers
Judge Dread Wolf
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Follow Up By: Utemad - Wednesday, Dec 08, 2004 at 21:17
Wednesday, Dec 08, 2004 at 21:17
You can spot the 2x4s a mile away. They have about 1 foot less clearance under the guards. One thing I have notcied driving them is that even though they're big and not overly manouverable it's easy to change lanes as everyone gets out of your way LOL.
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Follow Up By: Member - glenno (bris) - Wednesday, Dec 08, 2004 at 23:48
Wednesday, Dec 08, 2004 at 23:48
How about instead of steppenwolfs" Born to be wild" , what about hawkwinds "steppenwolf" .
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Reply By: Noosa Bushtrackers - Wednesday, Dec 08, 2004 at 21:26
Wednesday, Dec 08, 2004 at 21:26
We have had our Twin Cab F250 with 7.3 litre T/D for nearly 3 years now and the only problem that we have had is the turbo pipe was too close to the cab and rattled when under heavy load, and the air conditioner had a pipe rubbing on the front of the condenser that eventually allowed the gas to leak. Ford fixed these under warranty and no further problems.
I would agree that they make a lousy shopping trolley; they just don’t fit in most shopping centre car parks, so you get a bit more exercise walking to shops.
As for 4WD use we have found that they will go pretty
well anywhere that a Patrol or Landcruiser will. Their down fall is the long wheel base that gives a poor ramp over angle, so you just have to adjust your driving skills to suit. I might add that I have done a lot of 4WDing in Landcruiser since 1981 and CFA tankers, and the F250 really is a much more capable vehicle than the 4WD mags make out.
We tow a 21ft Bushtracker with a tare of 2480kgs, but when loaded with the 5
water tanks (400litres) full we go between 3200 and 3300kgs, but the F250 tows it with ease. We used to tow the same van with a Landcruiser 100 series T/D, but we find the F250 is much more stable due to longer wheel base, uses less fuel and is more comfortable to ride in. On hills where there are overtaking lanes we often pull out and overtake Patrols and Landcruisers towing smaller vans that are slowing up going up the hills. The extra power and Torque is great to have.
We have travelled through the Kimberleys including
Kalumburu Road and
Mitchell Falls, often travelled
the Beach from Noosa to
Rainbow Beach, went over Big Red without a problem, and while doing the 4WD tracks in the “
Warraweena Station” (
Flinders Ranges) with a Patrol, found that we were bottoming out on some that the patrol didn’t but we go through some that the Patrol hit on. We haven’t really found the large turning circle a problem on most bush tracks, but we do have a lot of scratches down the sides. The van has too for that matter.
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Follow Up By: Utemad - Wednesday, Dec 08, 2004 at 22:05
Wednesday, Dec 08, 2004 at 22:05
We overtake anyone we please towing heavy work trailers too. Put your foot down and away you go. I agree that there fuel economy is great on the highway whether towing or not but do a few kms around town and the figure skyrockets.
I don't know the tracks you have talked about except Double Island. We have taken both of ours up there including the Freshwater Track and you just can't bog them can you. Even at high tide they drive like it was bitumen. Anyway we have never attempted anything with tight windy tracks in ours but there is a single cab 250 in our club with bigger tyres but standard everything else. He brought it on one weekend trip and spent a lot of the time making tracks around tight corners and in one section rearranged the passenger door trying to negotiate a corner. So he has more clearance, better ramp over, better departure angle (has steel tray) than us yet it still sucks as a real 4x4 track vehicle. However they certainly excel on the more open tracks where space permits. He took it up hills where only diff locked Nissans and Toyotas would go. We figured the extra weight help prevent wheelspin. His is a manual 4.2 though. So as far as taking it where you would go for touring I'm sure they would go everywhere. But not everywhere you could take a Patrol if you get what I mean.
As for the scratches ours are metallic silver so we know all about those. We've found that a good polish gets rid of 99% of them though.
You must not have gotten much change from $200k for that setup!
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Follow Up By: Noosa Bushtrackers - Thursday, Dec 09, 2004 at 12:44
Thursday, Dec 09, 2004 at 12:44
You are pretty close with the cost. The truck with all the accessories on is close to $100k and the van was $80 three years ago
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