Mega Pulse

Submitted: Thursday, Dec 09, 2004 at 21:14
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Has anybody heard of or use Mega Pulse battery conditioners? Do they really work?
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Reply By: David Au - Thursday, Dec 09, 2004 at 21:45

Thursday, Dec 09, 2004 at 21:45
Supposedly, but have no experience
I hear there are some brands that are so-so and some brands that are supposed to work ok Megapulse
There is not much convincing evidence around they do work.

In what application are you going to use this Megapulse?
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Follow Up By: BigO- Friday, Dec 10, 2004 at 07:32

Friday, Dec 10, 2004 at 07:32
David
I have installed 2 x 100ah sealed deep cycle batteries in my new Kanga camper to run my 60 litre EvaKool fridge and was told by a workmate that he had heard a Mega Pulse would make the the batteries last longer. I had never heard of them.
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Follow Up By: David Au - Friday, Dec 10, 2004 at 11:42

Friday, Dec 10, 2004 at 11:42
BigO the only thing that makes batteries last longer is proper charging, and not cycling to deeply, preferably no less than 50%. Once you go past 50% nothing will save your batteries.
At the end of the day, solar and a quality regulator is the only thing that will give you maximum battery life.
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Reply By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Thursday, Dec 09, 2004 at 22:14

Thursday, Dec 09, 2004 at 22:14
I have had one for several years. I originally connected it to my 2nd battery, but found it interfered with my AM radio reception, so I took it off and hooked it up to my camper trailer's battery.
Like my ShuRoo and the "De-Bug" unit I have in my diesel lines, I have no way of knowing whether it worked or not.
I recently re-configured my camper trailer's electrics, added another Exide Orbital in parralel with the one I already had in order to run the new Engel 80 litre upright fridge I installed. I also bought a 3 stage battery charger and figured I didn't have any need for the Mega Pulse anymore.
If you'd like it, you can have it for $40- + postage.
Let me know.
Cya
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Thursday, Dec 09, 2004 at 23:09

Thursday, Dec 09, 2004 at 23:09
What 3 stage charger did you use?
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Follow Up By: Member - Ross P (NSW) - Friday, Dec 10, 2004 at 08:27

Friday, Dec 10, 2004 at 08:27
Shaker,

I use a Ctek 7A mains operated smart charger (Bainbridge Technologies). Cost about $390. Has several modes of operation for wet cells and sealed units as well as a boost setting, and a supply setting. It takes about 8 hous to bring my 85AH deepcycle carvan mounted battery from about 50% to 80% and then about another 48 hrs to get to point where it is fully charged and in the "maitenance" mode. It can be left in the final mode indefinitely but it "pulses" every 10 mins or so automatically with or without any load.
I've read about the limitations of charging batteries from the vehicle voltage regulator/alternator but was quite suprised how long it took after I turned the car off, disconnected the battery and connected the charger. AND it's not the fault of the charger.
My vehicle regulates to 14.2 V DC

Regards,
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Follow Up By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Friday, Dec 10, 2004 at 11:53

Friday, Dec 10, 2004 at 11:53
Hey Roachie, the real reason that you have not got the megapulse hooked up is that you cant find a 100mm x 100mm spot to put it LOL...
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Friday, Dec 10, 2004 at 20:12

Friday, Dec 10, 2004 at 20:12
Michael,
Mate, you dunno how right you are!!!! LOLOL

Shaker,
I bought a Hybrlec 15amp 3 stage charger for $300- It also has a switch for flooded or gel batteries another switch with 3 settings for voltage outputs of 13.2; 13.5 & 13.8v. It has another switch marked "charger" and "power supply". I assume the latter would be used to, say, power a 12 volt fridge that did not have a 240v option?

Works okay for me....

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Follow Up By: Member - John - Tuesday, Dec 14, 2004 at 07:09

Tuesday, Dec 14, 2004 at 07:09
Roachie, still got it for sale?
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Tuesday, Dec 14, 2004 at 21:57

Tuesday, Dec 14, 2004 at 21:57
John,
Sorry mate, Jiarna from oodnadatta sent me a memeber message asking for it...sent it off yesterday.

Shaker,
I bought my 3 stage charger from HYBRALEC.......they've got a website:
www.hybralec.com.au

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Reply By: Wok - Friday, Dec 10, 2004 at 07:35

Friday, Dec 10, 2004 at 07:35
BigO,

I have had one over 2 years...since a battery was replaced. ..as Roachie pointed out, I can't tell its effectiveness...at least for another few years! [I hope].

For $99 I think it is a worthwhile [investment] as it is suited to urban driving[stop start = below full charge on batteries]. I think the current version does 2 batteries [great for those who do not remove the 2nd batt for off-use conditioning].

Roachie's preloved unit is good value......[if you hear it 'singing' its working]

rgds
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Reply By: DaveNJude - Friday, Dec 10, 2004 at 07:57

Friday, Dec 10, 2004 at 07:57
I have built a couple and they do recover batteries that have already sulphated up so I would say they would be good as a preventative idea.

This Site has a lot of info about it it you want to plough through it all. I built several of this one , even a 24volt version for my electric push bike.

Cheers

DaveNJude
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Follow Up By: Member - David C (QLD) - Friday, Dec 10, 2004 at 08:30

Friday, Dec 10, 2004 at 08:30
One of the main reasons comon wet lead acid batteries loose capacity is through sulfation as DaveNJude mentioned, however in a vehicle application I found that constantly running the batteries down past 11.5 volts shortened their life and was the main contributor for so many people going through batteries (cannot recover them either).

Do a search on battery sulfation. There is a circuit you can build which prevents sulfation from happening in a battery . The Megapulse uses this same circuit (high negative pulse) and works a charm (I have one but only after a lot of research). The technology has been around for many years and is used primarily in home power (solar + battery banks on large scale).

Regards
David

I have taken a vow of poverty.... To annoy me, send me money.....
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Follow Up By: GUPatrol - Friday, Dec 10, 2004 at 09:20

Friday, Dec 10, 2004 at 09:20
After a lot of research I found the same.
Although I had a deep cycle battery which I was about to trash and after installing the megapulse I got another year out of it. I can't say it "fixed" it but it disolved the sulfation enough to continue working for a while longer.
Since I put a new battery in, no sulphation has occured and it is being used in the same way.
William
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Reply By: Member - Chrispy (NSW) - Friday, Dec 10, 2004 at 12:00

Friday, Dec 10, 2004 at 12:00
Our neighbour in Cooma uses one on their solar/wind 12v house system and swears by it. In the cold climate he was getting about 9 months out of a set of marine batteries. He always looks after his batteries (over 1000Ah worth!!), and checks electrolye levels every two days with a hygrometer. He installed a MegaPulse and reckons it's made a difference as he hasn't had to swap batteries for over a year now.

Dunno... but he reckons they work.
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Follow Up By: David Au - Friday, Dec 10, 2004 at 12:11

Friday, Dec 10, 2004 at 12:11
Chrispy pity your mate in Cooma did not start off with the correct batteries and proper regulator. Marine batteries are most definitely NOT suitable for a solar/wind system.
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Follow Up By: Member - Chrispy (NSW) - Friday, Dec 10, 2004 at 12:19

Friday, Dec 10, 2004 at 12:19
Well, i suggest you tell him then.

He's used 2v batteries in series for years.... like 20. He probably wouldn't know anything about it anyway as he's just a PhD in the electrical engineering field.
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Follow Up By: Wok - Friday, Dec 10, 2004 at 13:06

Friday, Dec 10, 2004 at 13:06
Hmmmmmmmmmm..............2V Marine battery?..What brand/type are they Chrispy?

rgds
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Follow Up By: Member - Chrispy (NSW) - Friday, Dec 10, 2004 at 13:50

Friday, Dec 10, 2004 at 13:50
Wok

He used to be involved in government research circles. I suspect that he is able to source batteries that are used in some submarine capacity. I'm going down there tonight, so I'll see if I can get more details on the exact specs. I do however jnow that these things are monsters - each one is about 3 feet tall and a foot square....
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Follow Up By: David Au - Friday, Dec 10, 2004 at 13:54

Friday, Dec 10, 2004 at 13:54
Chrispy because he/she/it has a Phd in electrical engineering would make it unlikely he/she/it knew anything about batteries and battery storage systems.

If he/she/it had a properly designed system with 2 volt storage batteries the batteries would have lasted substantially longer than nine months. In a properly designed system, with 2v lighting/storage cells, you could expect an absolute minimum life of four years and generally up to six years or more. Today we have 2v cells that will last a minimum of ten years. There is no such thing as 2v marine batteries.
Perhaps this would suggest your Phd friend new nothing about low voltage systems and even less about batteries and alternative energy principals and design.
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Follow Up By: Mad Dog (Victoria) - Friday, Dec 10, 2004 at 14:23

Friday, Dec 10, 2004 at 14:23
ROTFLMAO

Sorry guys I can't help myself. Just can't stop laughing.

Sorry again
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Follow Up By: Member - Chrispy (NSW) - Friday, Dec 10, 2004 at 15:41

Friday, Dec 10, 2004 at 15:41
Hmmm.. I've been told you like to stir it up. I'd also like to know how many letters come after your name, because every single post on this forum seems to have your difinitive and most knowledgeable answer to end it. How wonderful that you're always correct. I really am in awe of your brain. It must be hard to lift off your pillow in the morning.

PS: What the hell gives you the right to question what others do. I'm only going by what I picked up talking to our neighbour. If I'm wrong, I sincerely apologise, If I'm not wrong in what I thought he said last time we spoke I'll come looking for you.
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Follow Up By: Member - Chrispy (NSW) - Friday, Dec 10, 2004 at 15:44

Friday, Dec 10, 2004 at 15:44
PS - The term "MARINE" is from my mouth - not his. I have been under the impression (after nemerous posts on a few BB's) that "deep cycle" batteries are sometimes referred to as "marine" batteries anyway.
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Follow Up By: Wok - Friday, Dec 10, 2004 at 15:59

Friday, Dec 10, 2004 at 15:59
Hello Chrispy,

OK I get the picture.......these are the HUMUNGOUS batts used in big RAPS systems.

rgds
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Reply By: Member - David C (QLD) - Friday, Dec 10, 2004 at 21:05

Friday, Dec 10, 2004 at 21:05
OK why don't you all give each other your phone numbers so you can talk about it off the forum....Then post back and let us know who won ;-)

I am sure that someone is not going to outlay $10,000 to $30,000 for a home power setup without doing the research on it so lets put it down to wrong use of terminology or something.

Regards
David
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Reply By: Noosa Bushtrackers - Friday, Dec 10, 2004 at 21:19

Friday, Dec 10, 2004 at 21:19
In our caravan we have 4 by 110 amp deep cycle Calcium Calcium batteries that are now 3 years old. I bought a Megapulse in May and fitted it to the caravan battery bank. When fitted the indicator lamp colour showed that they were in the low to medium range, indicating a lot of sulphation. After 4 months with the Megapulse attached, they indicator is now showing that they have little sulphation and the batteries have more power than they used to.

I was sceptical when I bought it on a friends recommendation, but thought the $100 was worth a try as we had had a few power problems, and now I definitely think it was worth installing.
Brian
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