Cranking Batteries - But which one?

Submitted: Tuesday, Dec 14, 2004 at 16:12
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Afternoon all,
I'm looking to replace my starting battery and am looking for recommendations on makes and types of reasonably priced cranking batteries. I've had a look through the archives and have not seen much on brands / types etc. Anything to look out for? Any brands on the not to buy list? Its for a 4.2 non turbo diesel Landcruiser. All opinions welcome. Thanks again...
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Reply By: floyd - Tuesday, Dec 14, 2004 at 16:30

Tuesday, Dec 14, 2004 at 16:30
Try Cat batteries. They are for tractors and earthmoving gear. They aparently last years longer than anything else on the market and they have plates that are designed to resist rattles, bumps and the type of punishment that earthmoving gear can give. Do an archive search and you will get a bit of info on them here. Just put in Cat. I do not know who supplies them or the price but I will get one when either of mine dies.
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Follow Up By: Member - Alan S (NSW) - Tuesday, Dec 14, 2004 at 16:36

Tuesday, Dec 14, 2004 at 16:36
Thanks, I see what I can find. If I just put Cat in to the seacrh engine I get back 1298768759875975 possibles.
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Follow Up By: Terry - Tuesday, Dec 14, 2004 at 22:52

Tuesday, Dec 14, 2004 at 22:52
Yeah the Cat batteries are pretty good and very reliable but maybe alittle more expensive but worth a look.... Gough & Gilmour would be your best bet in NSW
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Reply By: Leroy - Tuesday, Dec 14, 2004 at 16:37

Tuesday, Dec 14, 2004 at 16:37
I've been buying Bond batteries for about 10 years now, though I did recently buy an Excide for my boat as I needed one in a hurry! The bond batteries have a 2 year warranty, were competively priced like $60 for a size that starts a commodore. The one in my current commodore is 4 y/o, I had one in my old boat for a few years bfore I sold it also.They seem to stand up to the vibration and pounding in the boat. But I seem to get around 4years out of them on average and I think I have purchased 4-5 plus a few friends bought them also with good results.
Leroy
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (WA) - Tuesday, Dec 14, 2004 at 17:44

Tuesday, Dec 14, 2004 at 17:44
batterys in big diesals wont last anywhere near as long as in your commodore because a diesal runs about 2 1/2 times the compression. I have easily got 4-5 years out of batterys in petrols but in a 4by they are on borrowed time after2 years
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Reply By: floyd - Tuesday, Dec 14, 2004 at 16:40

Tuesday, Dec 14, 2004 at 16:40
sorry Imeant put it into the Ex oz archives search on this site.
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Follow Up By: Member - Alan S (NSW) - Tuesday, Dec 14, 2004 at 16:47

Tuesday, Dec 14, 2004 at 16:47
That's what I did..
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Reply By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Tuesday, Dec 14, 2004 at 17:23

Tuesday, Dec 14, 2004 at 17:23
I've heard mixed reports about "Powercrank" from shops but maybe they are just upset because they are fairly cheap. I've got two powercranks in the surf, a 17 Plate 770CCA which I have jump started a 4.2TD Patrol staight of my truck jumper leads (without my engine running), then started mine after without any hesitation at all. I also use an 80 amp/hr powercrank as my aux. They are getting close to 1 year old each and have to put up with some pretty terrible heat under the bonnet of the surf and seem to be holding their own. I havn't really noticed any deteriation in charging, time to discharge etc.
I paid $79 (on special) for the starter and $120 for the deep cycle.
Pretty good value so far, see how long they last I guess.

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Follow Up By: Member - Jimbo (VIC) - Tuesday, Dec 14, 2004 at 19:23

Tuesday, Dec 14, 2004 at 19:23
Powercrank's warranty backup is a disgrace. My son had a warranty refused despite the fact that the date markings showed it was within the warranty period because he didn't have receipt. He bought the car with the battery in it so how the hell could he have a receipt.

Great way to treat an 18 year old kid.

Jim.
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Follow Up By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Tuesday, Dec 14, 2004 at 19:32

Tuesday, Dec 14, 2004 at 19:32
LOL, Jim I was just typing you a reply in another post and this follow up came through! :-)

Was it powercrank themselves or a retailer?

I don't know what they are like to deal with for warranty as the batteries are not that old and are still performing ok. In fact I don't even know how long the warranty is.... Might only be 12 months. They were a good option to get me an effective dual battery setup for under $500 and I give them a pretty rough time.
It's a shame that so many companies are so bad when it comes to warranties... I guess there's four main factors I can think of:
1. The companies are potentially greedy.
2. Consumers are always finding more ingenious ways to rip off retailers and manufactuers with flase claims and are always finding new ways to be arrogant and rude about when airing their complaints.
3. Profit margins are no where near where they used to be and competion is fearce and mainly based on price price price.
4. Staff at both the retail and wholesale side of these businesses are either lazy or sick of the high returns of an ever growing cheap market of chinese made products.

I've been on both sides of the fence as a retail store manger, a distributor and a customer. I can tell you one thing, it sucks being any of them.
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Follow Up By: Member - Jimbo (VIC) - Tuesday, Dec 14, 2004 at 23:00

Tuesday, Dec 14, 2004 at 23:00
Jeff,

We spoke to the local shop and head office. The bloke at the shop was only following "policy".

Those at head office were simply arrogant and rude. I've taken my business elsewhere.

Cheers,

Jim.
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Reply By: Member -Dodger - Tuesday, Dec 14, 2004 at 17:30

Tuesday, Dec 14, 2004 at 17:30
HI Alan do a search for batteries in oz only then have a gander at the sites.
It will be very informative and probably confusing.
I would recomend the spiral gel cel batts as they seem to do the job. However my batts one cranking and one deep cycle are the run of the mill type and have been ok for the last 4yrs touch wood.
Cranking is the Nissan batt.
Deep cycle Aux is Bosch.
I used to have a handle on life, but it broke.

Cheers Dodg.

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Reply By: Member - Blue (VIC) - Tuesday, Dec 14, 2004 at 23:17

Tuesday, Dec 14, 2004 at 23:17
I had a Yuasa Overlander 700 in my old diesel Rocky, now in stepfathers diesel troopy... 7years and still going strong. I'd buy another tomorrow.
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Follow Up By: Willem - Wednesday, Dec 15, 2004 at 20:57

Wednesday, Dec 15, 2004 at 20:57
Yep I have Yuasa 700 N70ZZL as the aux. It is 6 years old and still going strong. Have a new Century 4wd 700 N70ZZL as cranking.
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Reply By: Banjo (SA) - Wednesday, Dec 15, 2004 at 09:38

Wednesday, Dec 15, 2004 at 09:38
El ditto.....I've got a Yuasa Overlander 700cca in the TD Jack - only 6 months old, but the extra 100cca over the others is essential for me, and the warranty is 12m I think - same size case as the 600cca's - about $130 I think - Century stockists have them.
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Reply By: Member - Bradley- Wednesday, Dec 15, 2004 at 15:20

Wednesday, Dec 15, 2004 at 15:20
Personally i cant go back to 'normal' batteries again, I was recommended to go for a Delkor M27 Marine batt ( n70zz size), and have been absolutely wrapped, 2 year old , about 700 crank , fully sealed so no acid leaks or terminal corry, and a set of aux posts as well. Can leave it sit for months and it will still go like the clappers. I know the importers and they have almost zero comebacks. Very high quality, cost about $140.
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Follow Up By: Outbacktourer - Wednesday, Dec 15, 2004 at 15:45

Wednesday, Dec 15, 2004 at 15:45
Bradley, where would one get one of these... SYD area?
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Follow Up By: Member - Alan S (NSW) - Wednesday, Dec 15, 2004 at 17:22

Wednesday, Dec 15, 2004 at 17:22
I'd be interested to talk to a Syd distributor too.
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Reply By: mr diamond - Wednesday, Dec 15, 2004 at 18:26

Wednesday, Dec 15, 2004 at 18:26
i to must agree with bradley.
i have one in the jack at the moment.(to charge)
will be 3 years old this coming easter.
have used it in the patrol as a second battery.
left it in the shed for 6 months.
used it as a jump battery at work for 10 months.
using in the camper to run the weaco at the moment.
i highly recomend them to anyone.
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Reply By: Mainey... - Thursday, Dec 16, 2004 at 12:50

Thursday, Dec 16, 2004 at 12:50
Alan.

As Bradley, I also use the same brand, Delkor, their DC27 deep Cycle battery ( N70ZZ size), and have been absolutely wrapped, 4 year old, fully sealed so no acid leaks or terminal corrosion, and a set of aux posts as well, and yes I also believe they have almost zero comebacks.
Quality comes at a price $, but does the job as it is intended to and you will not have any regrets.
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