Garmin GPS v Magalen GPS

Submitted: Tuesday, Dec 14, 2004 at 16:24
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Hi all,

Firstly I do not want to start a, this is better then that, argument but when you start a post with these words you know in the end something will erupt. Anyway let what will be, be.

I have the chance to purchase a color Garmin 176c GPS with all the maps of Australia installed as well as all the mounts for the car and all the mapping software. To add to my confusion I have been told that for the same money I can get an imported Magalen color with the car mounts.

What I need to know is does anyone have an opinion on what would be the best plan of attack. When you guys get a chance can someone or anyone please let me know whether the Garmin or the Magalen is the better? One is Australian delivered and legit and the othe3r is from overseas.

Any response will be appreciated.

Regards

Nick
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, Dec 14, 2004 at 16:28

Tuesday, Dec 14, 2004 at 16:28
Go with Magellan from USA.
Colours are $276us. You can change basemaps IF you can find them...??
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Follow Up By: Member Eric - Tuesday, Dec 14, 2004 at 17:33

Tuesday, Dec 14, 2004 at 17:33
No longer available bruce , Prices at the moment are $600 au landed
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Follow Up By: geocacher (djcache) - Wednesday, Dec 15, 2004 at 00:04

Wednesday, Dec 15, 2004 at 00:04
About US$320-340 three - four weeks ago from CHILEJOSE@aol.com. I have bought two colors of this guy in the last couple of months. Both arrived with the windscreen mount and powerlead and canvas case, shipped global priority express USPS in 5-6 days and landed here for AU$570. Jose will ship to Aust with value stated as about USD100 so you won't get slugged by customs.

I can't recommend this guy highly enough. I first got onto him through ebay and then dealt direct second time around.

Regards

Dave

PS The base maps are out there. Search the Magellan Meridian group on Yahoo and there was a link in October or November to a site with all the available basemaps for USA, Australia and others for download (69Meg zip file) if it's still there. I love broadband.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Wednesday, Dec 15, 2004 at 15:54

Wednesday, Dec 15, 2004 at 15:54
Geo, thats the dude Ive always used..

agree... now have at least 4 from him, never a problem.. Eric is also tryin to use him, as have about 2 dozen others Ive put onto him!
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Follow Up By: geocacher (djcache) - Wednesday, Dec 15, 2004 at 21:32

Wednesday, Dec 15, 2004 at 21:32
That doesn't surprise me. He said he is shipping 4-6 a week to Australia. I found the newspapers he uses as packing material fascinating. One was their real estate section and one was their cars guide.

Man, Real Estate is expensive in California! But big 4wd's are common. Oh and the Septics are a bit upset that petrol has hit US$2.40 a gallon - ohhhh can you hear the violins??

That's about 70 Aussie cents a litre.

Lets see our petrol is 50% over price or more, and our GPS gear is at least 100% over priced. How come the Aussies get screwed?

By the way, given the choice and having played with both I'd get the Platinum not the Color Meridian. I don't like the screen - particularly when it's zoomed out at high level detail when you are in an area with lots of water, creeks etc - the whole screen goes blue! Also you need the back light on in daylight at all times.

The other advantage to me is the electronic compass which is great when geocaching (www.geocaching.com) as it corrects gotos when you turn without moving where a compass heading based on GPS course won't change unless you move.

Dave

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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Thursday, Dec 16, 2004 at 10:05

Thursday, Dec 16, 2004 at 10:05
Agree with the colours needing backlight on all times, but I got the ciggy lighter cable for mine so tis not an issue...
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Reply By: David Au - Tuesday, Dec 14, 2004 at 16:46

Tuesday, Dec 14, 2004 at 16:46
Go with the Garmin which is without a doubt superior quality hardware, more user friendly, usually more features, larger range of genuine and non-genuine accessories, and all GPS software supports Garmin products to the hilt.
Having used both brands, I would buy a Garmin in preference to a Magellan.
How much are they asking for the Garmin 176C?
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Follow Up By: Member - Nick K (VIC) - Tuesday, Dec 14, 2004 at 16:52

Tuesday, Dec 14, 2004 at 16:52
David,

Mate they are asking about 500 hundred for the lot. All software, craddles, mounts, wiring and the kitchen sink.

Regards

Nick
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Follow Up By: David Au - Tuesday, Dec 14, 2004 at 17:21

Tuesday, Dec 14, 2004 at 17:21
At that price I would not hesitate to buy it if it is in good condition.
Garmin mapping is now way ahead of Magellan mapping.
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Wednesday, Dec 15, 2004 at 17:50

Wednesday, Dec 15, 2004 at 17:50
for that price for the 176C I would go for it too
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Reply By: Member - Chrispy (NSW) - Tuesday, Dec 14, 2004 at 17:42

Tuesday, Dec 14, 2004 at 17:42
I've always preferred Garmin for two reasons.

1) I have had the GPS-II and GPS-III. I believe that both are made to almost military specification - you can feel the quality in the weight and strength of the casing. Now having the GPS-III for a few years, it has never missed a beat and still feels as well put together as the day I bought it. Having said this, I'm sure that there are some Magellan units that might be as well built.

2) I hust prefer the Garmin's function buttons and screen's navigation - it always appeared more logical to me... but that's me....
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Follow Up By: Squizzy - Tuesday, Dec 14, 2004 at 19:41

Tuesday, Dec 14, 2004 at 19:41
I agree Chrispy, I have had the GPS 2+ now for several years without any problems, and I don't even wish to upgrade yet.
It has been on many outback, very remote trips and been quite accurate each time.
Functionality is also quite easy. It must be if I can use it!
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Reply By: Member - Nick (TAS) - Tuesday, Dec 14, 2004 at 18:41

Tuesday, Dec 14, 2004 at 18:41
Got a Magellan Meridian Colour and find it great,specially when loaded with Disc Aus and Desert Tracks CD.Bought it new off E Bay for $550 Aus model.Carnt comment on the Garmin's,never used one
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Reply By: 28patrol - Tuesday, Dec 14, 2004 at 19:27

Tuesday, Dec 14, 2004 at 19:27
I did a lot of research, both through the net and club members, and decided that Garmin was the way to go for my application. I think that both are very good but you need to look at is the function/features of both, what your requirements are (now and future), (cost if it is a factor), and go for the one that meets the requirements
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Reply By: Member - Chrispy (NSW) - Tuesday, Dec 14, 2004 at 19:31

Tuesday, Dec 14, 2004 at 19:31
I also like the Garmin GPS-III form factor - because you can mount them like I've done here:

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Follow Up By: geocacher (djcache) - Wednesday, Dec 15, 2004 at 00:08

Wednesday, Dec 15, 2004 at 00:08
Way too far below eye line for me. Any time spent looking down is a recipe for an ambulance ride.

At 100kmh you are doing about 30metres per second. You want to add sixty metres to your braking distance stick it down low like that.

And don't tell me you don't look at it unless you are stopped....

Dave
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Follow Up By: Member - Chrispy (NSW) - Wednesday, Dec 15, 2004 at 07:18

Wednesday, Dec 15, 2004 at 07:18
Dave

Well...actually....I DON'T look at it unless I have stopped.......my wife looks at it while I'm driving. She does the navigation :)

Seriously, I have had them at eye height, and at the distance they are from you on the dash-top anyway (and the concentration involved in that) - you might as well hit that tree you didn't see coming. GPS units are NOT, in my honest opinion, meant to be watched while driving. If we are following a track (or back) log, then Jenny reads the display for me and tells me to veer either way at a track intersection. She has the map out as I refuse to have a laptop running in the car - we prefer paper. So..... how do you use a GPS and a map or laptop and still look at it - even when it is at eye level?

Besides all that..... modern cars designers don't leave you with too many neat mounting options on curved dashs these days :(
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Follow Up By: geocacher (djcache) - Wednesday, Dec 15, 2004 at 15:25

Wednesday, Dec 15, 2004 at 15:25
That's good to hear Crispy,

Many people do though and if they are going to look at something it might as well be in eyeline than down there. Many car stereos are too low, buttons too small, writing impossible to read etc.

I'm not a fan of laptops mounted in cars for the same reason, with the second reason that most commercial mounts aren't designed to restrain one in an accident only to hold it in a convenient location. Anything with a moving map display will be watched at times by the driver, as will a mobile in a handsfree or anything similar.

Cars are complicated and no necessarily well laid out. It's unavoidable that they are going to have distractions to drivers.

On the map topic I suppose the only pro is that a map that shows you exactly where you are and what the next street is, and is up on the windscreen, is far better than the Melway or UBD upside down on the passengers lap. And while many do some still try to read that while they're driving too, and shave, and put on make up, and look at what the kids are doing in the back seat.....

It all keeps me in a job.....

Dave
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Reply By: Member - Clive G (WA) - Tuesday, Dec 14, 2004 at 20:25

Tuesday, Dec 14, 2004 at 20:25
Ive had both, infact still got both, it all boils down to what you wanna use it for and your personal preference,, I think they are both as good as each other , One thing Im a great beleiver that I like to see in my hand what im buying, you get one from the states, what about warrenty issues, and of cos are you getting what you paid for, and in what condition,

Clive
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Follow Up By: geocacher (djcache) - Wednesday, Dec 15, 2004 at 00:10

Wednesday, Dec 15, 2004 at 00:10
Sent my US bought Magellan Platinum to Perth (with US basemap on it) and proof of purchase and had it back from Magellan in less than 10 days with the back light fixed.

Can't argue with warranty service like that.

Dave
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Reply By: Bob of KAOS - Wednesday, Dec 15, 2004 at 07:14

Wednesday, Dec 15, 2004 at 07:14
To me the critical issue is the clarity and brightness of the display. I use Magellans (have since 1994), and had no issues. I bought an American Meridian Color and transferred the Aus basemap from and Australian one - no probs.
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Reply By: BurnieM - Wednesday, Dec 15, 2004 at 22:22

Wednesday, Dec 15, 2004 at 22:22
Back off and decide what your primary use of the GPS will be.
Then decide if you will have a secondary use and how often you will use it this way.

You currently have 2 mixed choices in front of you and I would not pick either without deciding how I was going to use it first.
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Reply By: Member - Nick K (VIC) - Thursday, Dec 16, 2004 at 15:18

Thursday, Dec 16, 2004 at 15:18
Guys,

Thanks to all for your advice. I have decided to take the deal. It's to good to pass up.

once again thanks for all your advice

Nick
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