New Landcruiser 100
Submitted: Wednesday, Dec 15, 2004 at 06:38
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Shane (QLD)
Can anyone tell me exactly what problems are occurring with the front diff's and the torsen bar
suspension on this vehicle. I would appreciate answers from owners or someone with a sound knowledge of the vehicle. Also what is Toyota doing about it.
Reply By: Peter - Wednesday, Dec 15, 2004 at 07:50
Wednesday, Dec 15, 2004 at 07:50
no doubt u will get info u need from here,,but u could also go to LCOOL at yahoo
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Follow Up By: Shane (QLD) - Wednesday, Dec 15, 2004 at 08:54
Wednesday, Dec 15, 2004 at 08:54
On Lcool they only have info on the 80 series and the Prado.
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Follow Up By: Member - Alan S (NSW) - Wednesday, Dec 15, 2004 at 09:21
Wednesday, Dec 15, 2004 at 09:21
Shane, This is a topic that is discussed almost daily on LCOOL.
Peter, if you are having difficult subscribing to this group let me know and I'll try and help you. All you have to do is ask the question here and you will get all the answers you need.
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Reply By: Parso - Wednesday, Dec 15, 2004 at 09:11
Wednesday, Dec 15, 2004 at 09:11
I blew a front diff in my 100 series IFS after only 5,000km. Replaced under warranty, no questions asked.
The issue with the torsion bars relates to cracking of the spine area on the lower control arm, in particular the right hs.
Both ARB and Pedders have developed 'braces' that supposedly fixes the problem.
Toyota will not acknowledge that there is a problem and blames after-market
suspension upgrades.
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Reply By: Noosa Bushtrackers - Wednesday, Dec 15, 2004 at 13:15
Wednesday, Dec 15, 2004 at 13:15
See page 9 of 4X4 Australia January 2005 edition, where the Editor Dean Mellor has an article about the IFS front
suspension failure, and Toyota's reply.
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Reply By: oddy - Wednesday, Dec 15, 2004 at 14:08
Wednesday, Dec 15, 2004 at 14:08
Have been looking at buying one 2nd hand and have heard from high up in Toyo land that they have found that only vehicles fitted with after mkt
suspension and used heavily on corrugations etc have been affected.
With warranty they will not approved claims to vehicles fiited with after mkt springs but may consider vehicles fitted with after mkt shocks only.
Head in the sand in other words.
With the intro of IFS it is a shame because now there is just about no easy pick of vehicle when considering a decent auto turbo diesel in Australia.
Oddy
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Follow Up By: GUPatrol - Wednesday, Dec 15, 2004 at 16:34
Wednesday, Dec 15, 2004 at 16:34
Oddy,
A friend of
mine came across three of these failed IFS cruisers on a recent trip, he said while one of them had after market
suspension the other two did not, they were standard factory setups and one of them was the first time it was off road (on the Tanami), not even a bullbar.
ARB cannot guarantee that the brace they have will actually solve the problem, they reckon it may help but last time I was there they said that apparently some are now cracking elsewere in the chassis where the torsion bar attaches, so there are two spots where the IFS fails on these vehicles.
Will
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Reply By: Glenno - Wednesday, Dec 15, 2004 at 21:53
Wednesday, Dec 15, 2004 at 21:53
If only we could predict the future. In a few years time it may become another "Patrol 5th gear" type fiasco.
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Reply By: ianmc - Wednesday, Dec 15, 2004 at 23:44
Wednesday, Dec 15, 2004 at 23:44
Lots of other areas of smaller dissatisfaction I believe but surely there should be a recall on these things as it sounds like a recipe for disaster!
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Reply By: Pfeff - Monday, Dec 20, 2004 at 23:09
Monday, Dec 20, 2004 at 23:09
Real shame about this issue. Saw 3 cracked lower wishbones on two separate vehicles on recent outback trip of 13 vehicles and these were the only repairs to disable any of the trucks. When we contacted Toyota on the sat phone we were astonished to be tole they had no stock in Australia. Seems like either they aren't as frequent as this thread indicates or they just can't keep up with the demand. Thank goodness for the Piranha welding kit we had with us. And a bloody good mechanic.
Must say that over the rough stuff the IFS 100's were rebounding badly compared to the other vehicles on that trip, and could not have been too comfortable to be in.
I'm reluctant to trade my live axle 100 as it's as tough as nails and done some awesome work but after my recent experience, I'm looking elsewhere at the moment.
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