Jackaroo - Sand Entering Clutch/Bell Housing

Submitted: Thursday, Dec 16, 2004 at 15:15
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I have a 2001 TD Jackaroo.
On two occasions over the last 9 months sand has entered the bell housing and chewed out the clutch and thrust bearing.
Has any one else had the same problem and if so how was it fixed?
I feel that it is a design fault of vehicle and Holden should take some responsibility for the problem but they won't come to the party at the moment.
Any feed back from people who have experienced this problem would be appreciated.

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Reply By: theshadows - Thursday, Dec 16, 2004 at 15:23

Thursday, Dec 16, 2004 at 15:23
how is the sand getting in????
the bell housing should be sealed.
have a look at the boot for the clutch slave cyclinder/clutch fork lever where it exits and make sure the protective boot is in one piece and good working order.

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Follow Up By: Jacked off - Thursday, Dec 16, 2004 at 15:38

Thursday, Dec 16, 2004 at 15:38
All the seals/rubbers are in good condition and in their correct positions. I appears that the only entry point for the sand to enter is via the drain hole in the bottom on the bell housing.

It has been suggested to me that possibly a vacuum is being created inside the bell housing and this is sucking in the sand, but I can't see how this is can happen.

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Reply By: Rosco - Bris. - Thursday, Dec 16, 2004 at 18:07

Thursday, Dec 16, 2004 at 18:07
All bell housings have a drain hole. Some have it threaded so you can insert a bung for water/mud etc. I assume it isn't one of those, but in any event it shouldn't "suck" in any sand. Considered a cork or something similar for these particular outings??

Cheers
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Follow Up By: Peter Guy - Thursday, Dec 16, 2004 at 18:30

Thursday, Dec 16, 2004 at 18:30
My Patrol has a rubber thumb plug that you pull out if crossing deep water to drain this area so I would suggest you make a plug for yours too.
\Nissan wouldn't have one if it was deemed unecessary.
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Follow Up By: Rosco - Bris. - Thursday, Dec 16, 2004 at 20:35

Thursday, Dec 16, 2004 at 20:35
G'day Peter

The bung should be left out UNTIL you are about to enter water/mud etc to stop water entering when submerged. Clutch plates seem to loose a tad of grip when wet, which of course only happens if you change gears when crossing water, which you shouldn't anyway.

That is their purpose. If left in all the time and the rear engine seal fails you won't know the bell housing is full of slippery stuff when it should be in the sump, until the clutch refuses to grip.

Cheers cob
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Reply By: Banjo (SA) - Friday, Dec 17, 2004 at 12:58

Friday, Dec 17, 2004 at 12:58
Have you tackled it with Holden from the point of view:1. Is the Jack capable of being driven in sand ?
2. What have I done wrong ?Assuming the answer to 1 is yes,
and IF the car is maintained properly, I can't see how anything other than a design flaw would allow the sand in - it might well be getting in, but how can it be your fault ? Don't ever forget - the first response of dealers (it seems) is to feed you complete bulldust and see if you go away _ the trick is to be detailed, methodical and persistent and don't go away.
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Reply By: Jacked off - Friday, Dec 17, 2004 at 16:48

Friday, Dec 17, 2004 at 16:48
Thanks Banjo

Unfortunately I have hit Holden with similar questions and have come up against a brick wall.

Yes, they say the Jack is capable of driving in sand BUT, they reckon that I was driving it in sand that caused the bell housing to drag in the sand forcing sand inside. This was not the case.

As the vehicle has been properly maintained (log books to prove so) I am also at a loss to explain how this has happened. The only other opening into the bell housing (inspection plate and around slave cylinder etc) are fully sealed and in good condition.

I seem to have exhausted all avenues through Holden in my search for answers and a suitable outcome (my dealer and Holden Customer Assist). Any clues on where I should go from here??

Any ideas would be appreciated.

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Reply By: Utemad - Friday, Dec 17, 2004 at 18:41

Friday, Dec 17, 2004 at 18:41
I get sand in through the drain hole in my 1997 Rodeo. I just put a piece of duct tape over the hole until I get off the beach. When I had my clutch changed they did the rear main seal at the same time as it was leaking and they reckoned there was sand in the seal. If you wipe the surfaces clean before you tape it up the tape will stick very well. In fact it can be difficult to rip the tape off.
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