Nissan GUIII 3ltr Diesel Loosing Power

Submitted: Wednesday, Dec 29, 2004 at 15:08
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This is intermittent. When towing a 17ft camper in either 4th or 5th gear doing
100 -120 on level road, suddenly loose power, rpm drops as though foot is off the accelerator. To over come the problem lift foot of accelerator then put foot down again all is then well until next time. It is does not appear to be temperature related or how long I have been traveling.
Any thought of what could be the cause?
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Reply By: Bungalow - Wednesday, Dec 29, 2004 at 16:15

Wednesday, Dec 29, 2004 at 16:15
I had the same prob. a few years ago sounds like it could be fuel filters .
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Follow Up By: October 1066 - Wednesday, Dec 29, 2004 at 16:19

Wednesday, Dec 29, 2004 at 16:19
Filter was replaced about 2500 ago. It could be the filter I shall change it again before I go again in 2 weeks.
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Wednesday, Dec 29, 2004 at 16:20

Wednesday, Dec 29, 2004 at 16:20
Could be
Air flow sensor $1000+
Fuel filters
Air filter
Crap in fuel tank around the pickup etc etc

have you done any sort of trouble shooting yet? Been back to the dealer yet?
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Follow Up By: October 1066 - Wednesday, Dec 29, 2004 at 16:30

Wednesday, Dec 29, 2004 at 16:30
This is too intermittant for the dealer to even try to look at, beside I have been hounding them to replace a rear door as the weld has cracked & been repaired twice. Had the 100,000 service done 2500 ago all filters were replaced then. I have opened the main fuel tank, it is clean. Cant do any trouble shooting as I am driving, take your foot of the accelerator and put it back on again and its all fine. It occurs going down on the flat and going up hill. It very intermittent, traveled 600k did it once traveled 600k back did it 4 times.
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Wednesday, Dec 29, 2004 at 21:11

Wednesday, Dec 29, 2004 at 21:11
Pester the dealer to death over it, intermittent inst good enough in my book, get them to start replacing things they feel may be the cause and then test it on the road (thats if its under warranty)
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Reply By: Member - Andrew(WA) - Wednesday, Dec 29, 2004 at 16:43

Wednesday, Dec 29, 2004 at 16:43
You may have picked up a bad tank of Diesel since your last fuel filter change. I would start with the filter.

I have had this very problem and fixed it with the filer change.
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Reply By: Member -Dodger - Wednesday, Dec 29, 2004 at 17:22

Wednesday, Dec 29, 2004 at 17:22
Looks like fuel probs to me try the filter change bit then go for a blast.
If not sensor probs $$$$$$$.
Thats why I have a 4.2 fuel gussler just keeps going and usin fuel.
I used to have a handle on life, but it broke.

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Reply By: RedGibber - Wednesday, Dec 29, 2004 at 20:37

Wednesday, Dec 29, 2004 at 20:37
If it doesn't seem like the motor is actually losing power but more like lower "throttle" position, I'd be checking the TPS (throttle position sensor).
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Reply By: sean - Wednesday, Dec 29, 2004 at 21:42

Wednesday, Dec 29, 2004 at 21:42
As far as bad fuel goes, my experience in the 3 litre is that the engine will cough and the engine diagnostic warning light will come on and stay on - and over time there will be a slow but continual loss of power until you cant get the beast over 100.

My 4.2 wont tow a 17 foot van over 100ish. Maybe it thinks its grown up a bit. Park it in front of a shop window so it can see its decals on the side doors.

Sean
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Reply By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Thursday, Dec 30, 2004 at 11:25

Thursday, Dec 30, 2004 at 11:25
Mate,
Please feel free to tell me to mind my own business, but I really think you're doing yourself a dis-service by asking ANY vehicle (with the exception of a F250 or a Chev V8 powered patrol/Cruiser) to tow your van at those sorts of speeds for long distances; even on the flat. Towing in 5th gear is not recommended (even though I do it all the time, but my trailer is only about 1200kg)
Having said that, your problem could be related to poor fuel resulting in a blocked filter as suggested earlier.
When we did our recent Cape York trip a few months ago, we fuelled up at Innaminka. My mate and I both used the same bowser. About 1 hour into our trip north from there, he sufferred a similar problem to what you have described, although we were only doing around 80 klicks at the time. In the end his 3 litre passed out and had to be revived. This was a simple proceedure of running some fuel out of the bottom of the filter.
My 4.2 patrol did not suffer the same problems, but I do not know whether is due to the De-Bug fuel unit I use or the fact that the 4.2 is not high tech (the very reason i bought it and not the 3 litre) and may have been better able to process the bad fuel and keep going.
Good luck.....
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Reply By: Craigjackaroo - Thursday, Dec 30, 2004 at 20:22

Thursday, Dec 30, 2004 at 20:22
My totally un educated guess would be to look at the tps.
does the Nissan have onboard diagnostics that another member could help you with?.....usually a matter of shorting two specific pins on the service computer diagnostic plug/socket and counting the number of times a light on the dash or on the computer flashes. Some computers will store the fault codes after the mil light goes out.....and not all faults necessarily activate the mil light.
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Follow Up By: Glenn D - Thursday, Dec 30, 2004 at 22:06

Thursday, Dec 30, 2004 at 22:06
How s it going .

The patrol has a diagnostic plug under the dash, and as you said, you short out two pins and count the number of times the 'check engine' light flashs. I am lead to believe that there is no stored faults in the ECU if the 'check engine' light has not illuminaated

If the 'check engine' light comes on it can mean a fault in the ECU or water in the fuel filter.

While the light remains on the ECU goes into limp home mode , with noticeable power loss

After the light coming on a few times after being offroad a while I have been advised that airrated fuel can cause the light to come on falsely???

It does sound like a fuel filter though, have had this problem on another vehicle.

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Glenn
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Follow Up By: Craigjackaroo - Thursday, Dec 30, 2004 at 23:29

Thursday, Dec 30, 2004 at 23:29
Just commenting from experience with our Jackaroo.
It has the ability to store codes and certain engine operating parameters when faults occur.
Unfortunately you need the specialist equipment to get a lot of the information out of it but it will give you the basic fault codes using the flashing malfunction indicator light.
But have found many times you can't beat prior experience in some of these issues.
That is why forums such as this can save time and money for people with the prohibitive costs of diagnostics and the increased complexity of vehicles.
Common faults or quirks can be soon identified.
I hope it is as simple as a fuel filter.
Intermittent faults can sometimes drag on for years even.

regards Craig
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