Gearbox:Best Option?
Submitted: Thursday, Dec 30, 2004 at 15:30
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fateddie54
Hello all,
Firstly I hope we all had a happy christmas, and the fat man has been generous this year...
The next job for my cruiser is a gearbox replacement. 5 speed landcruiser with tranny is needed. My question for the gurus is whether i purchase a clapped out combo from a wrecker and have it all reconditioned, or buy an already reco'd combo from the trading post. I would only pick one up from the trader if it came with receipts/warranty...but the sceptic in me doesnt know whether to trust the 'reconditioned' gearbox/trannie.
Thanks in advance
Reply By: Member - DOZER- Thursday, Dec 30, 2004 at 21:28
Thursday, Dec 30, 2004 at 21:28
Hi
What model cruiser are we talking about?? I would redo yours...at least u know whats wrong...unless you can get one out of a roll over from the trading post, and see the car, dont bother...most 1990 on 75series cruiser boxes have problems with output shafts wearing from the output gear....so if u were buying one of these second hand.....dont.
Andrew
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Follow Up By: fateddie54 - Thursday, Dec 30, 2004 at 22:52
Thursday, Dec 30, 2004 at 22:52
Its a 1975 FJ40. Just dropped a Holden 308 into her. Currently running a stock 4 speed, hence the need to go for a new box&tranny. Would love to stick with what i know, but i do alot of freeway work and need the overdrive!
Im really trying to determine the relative cost/risk of buying a reco'd combo which might pack it up next week vs reco'ing an already shot unit, which i could then be sure was right.
Thanks for the prompt reply.
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Follow Up By: Member - DOZER- Friday, Dec 31, 2004 at 18:25
Friday, Dec 31, 2004 at 18:25
Hi
If you already have the 4 speed in it, i wouldnt bother with a 5 speed...they are not that much overdriven...15% thats all, and all the tailshafts are different lengths. (this would be equivalent in 5th with std diffs to 4th with 3.7 ratios)
Marks 4wd make transfer gears that overdrive in high and under drive in low range......IMHO this is the best option...high speed diffs reduce crawling ability, as do bigger tyres, but bigger tyres make for better ground clearance, however, they need higher
suspension....A 5 speed is a good idea if u can find a fj42 with complete 5 speed/shafts in it....for a good price.Another idea i had a while ago was to fit an 80 series 5 speed out of a 3f 1990-1992 80 series with the marks adapter bellhousing ring....that would make for a constant 4wd shorty with 2.45 low range, and no 5th gear problems :-)
Andrew
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Reply By: muzzgit - Friday, Dec 31, 2004 at 01:18
Friday, Dec 31, 2004 at 01:18
Hey fateddie, I'd be cautious about getting a bung box to fix up. You might end up buying nothing more than a boat anchor.. Know what I mean?
Have you looked at putting in Hi Speed Diffs?
Or, check out Marks Adaptors, they make all sorts of gizmo's for that sort of problem. I read an article in a 4x4 mag ten years ago, they make an adaptor that is fitted to the back of ur box to change the ratio's for V8 conversions.
Cheaper than a new box and transfer.
Cheers,
Muzz
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Follow Up By: banjodog - Friday, Dec 31, 2004 at 08:45
Friday, Dec 31, 2004 at 08:45
Have you thought about a 4 speed auto from a Commodore V8?
Rather than spending the money on a 5 speed (which has it's issues as already mentioned and a real pig to remove the 5th gear of the shaft when repairing - needs lots of heat and a good press).
Having had a 307 Chev in a shorty some years ago from memory it was about the same if not cheaper to buy a 4 speed auto - from a VP series Commodore as it has the manual valve body not electronic on the later VR onwards, plus the transfer case adapter kit than the 5 speed manual alone.
But I sold it before doing the change over, however "I" would go the auto option if I had the chance again. PS: don't forget about the disc brake upgrade too.
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Reply By: fateddie54 - Friday, Dec 31, 2004 at 09:03
Friday, Dec 31, 2004 at 09:03
Thanks for the words of wisdom...as always some new alternatives have come to light! I guess its back to the drawing board, i appreciate your thoughts on this matter though. HOpe everyone has a happy new year!
PS: Front end disc brakes already done...an absolute godsend!
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Friday, Dec 31, 2004 at 09:45
Friday, Dec 31, 2004 at 09:45
Go with an Auto. You will never regret it once offroading.
Turbo 400's are bulletproof for a 308, and many dudes are running the 400s on outerlimits4x4 behind 40s... You should also look at diff ratios.
It all depends on if you want it for lots of offroading.
IMHO, I wouldnt touch a 'recoed' one out of the post.. Buy a box from a wrecker, and get it done yourself.. you know what has been done, and you get warranty in your name..
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