Trailers
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I am looking at purchasing a trailer in the near future. I will not be going anywhere remote so it is mainly to carry the usual family
camping gear. My question is can I get by with your average garden trailer or do I need an off road type trailer? The
places I intend to travel are likely to be on occasional corrugated roads eg like the 2wd roads that are around
Arkaroola which gave my subaru l series a bit of a shake. Is a good sturdy 6 x 4 enough? or what is likely to give way?
Cheers.
Reply By: Banjo (SA) - Friday, Dec 31, 2004 at 09:06
Friday, Dec 31, 2004 at 09:06
Sounds to me like a "quality" 6 x 4 with leaf springs would be fine. The budget models are just that, and would probably fail out there somewhere. They seem to be made for the rubbish tip runs only... thin metal, minimal welding, extra cheap hardware. Some makers do what looks like an ordinary trailer, but is quality build in all respects (and heavier). Something you could own for 25 years. Costs more of course.
My plan would be to buy quality, fit buddies to the hubs, and then take a complete spare hub (bearings, seals etc) and grease, with gun. That would be my "piece of mind" formula for the roads you indicate.
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Follow Up By: Nudenut - Friday, Dec 31, 2004 at 18:23
Friday, Dec 31, 2004 at 18:23
leaf springs with shackles? should be ok...its all I use
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Reply By: Member - Gecko (WA) - Friday, Dec 31, 2004 at 09:08
Friday, Dec 31, 2004 at 09:08
Personaly I use a off oad trailer (Camper) but in travels I have seen many people using standard trailers to carry there
camping gear in, I would imagine that as long as you were careful this wouldnt be a problem, My folks tow a on raod camper off road and have only had to redo a couple of locks.
Hope this helps
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Reply By: Member - JohnR (Vic) - Friday, Dec 31, 2004 at 09:27
Friday, Dec 31, 2004 at 09:27
Canvas, you have asked a question a bit like the "how long is a piece of string" one. Who made the string and the qualities of the materials making the string are all important.
I have a 6 x 4 trailer that used to carry kayaks around Victoria but the moment you send the trailer and all your goodies and expensive
camping gear a long distance, the greater the risk. It also depends on how you drive. I saw a bit of the Leylands driving in the Flinders the other day and they would have little trouble. The Flinders is remote from say, Victoria, and
Arkaroola is too, but not so much from
Port Augusta.
The risk is that your
camping gear may be left stranded til you get back to retrieve it if you broke something.
What could break -
well, the tow hitch depends on what it is and how it is fitted. The drawbar frame depends on how it is welded to the frame and how strong the metal is (how thick the steel wall). The frame of the trailer is made for suburban roads and you suggest the shocks of corriegated roads shook your Subie. Will the forces tear the welds off the trailer frame from the spring mounts? Is the tow bar on your Subie strongly enough fitted too?
The springs are quite likely to be slipper springs - actually bounce off the frame rather than have proper mounts (shackles) each end.
Would the trailer have good tyres or second hand ones with little tread, are the bearings heavy enough to take the load.
You could get a relatively new trailer, take sufficient spares, take little weight and have an absolute ball for a trip or two, but maintenance and quality are the things I would have to things I would have to look to. I learned a bit how much risk I placed my wife and self in a car without a proper spare, just think but also learn about your equipment.
Be wary
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Friday, Dec 31, 2004 at 09:34
Friday, Dec 31, 2004 at 09:34
Wish I could find a kayak that would float with my ar$e in it :(
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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic) - Friday, Dec 31, 2004 at 09:46
Friday, Dec 31, 2004 at 09:46
You better try out
mine mate. I may need a smaller volume boat if I lose the weight I want to.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Friday, Dec 31, 2004 at 09:48
Friday, Dec 31, 2004 at 09:48
If I lose the weight I want to, I'll fit in a match box
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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic) - Friday, Dec 31, 2004 at 09:54
Friday, Dec 31, 2004 at 09:54
C'mon mate, you don't want to do that, you already are a
bright spark, you would set off the ones beside you.
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Friday, Dec 31, 2004 at 09:36
Friday, Dec 31, 2004 at 09:36
I think John said it.. Normal 6x4's are pumped out everywhere these days, and theres reasons they are only $300 new.. IMHO you wouldnt get quality for that bucks.
I bought a second hand Koala Camper Trailer without the camper setup off a bloke for $1500. Very good quality, and only 2 yrs old...
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Follow Up By: Member - bushfix - Friday, Dec 31, 2004 at 10:13
Friday, Dec 31, 2004 at 10:13
Did you end up deciding on how you will secure the trailier at home?
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Friday, Dec 31, 2004 at 16:33
Friday, Dec 31, 2004 at 16:33
yup... shes that much hassle to get out now, that not even I can be bothered :(
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Reply By: Squizzy - Friday, Dec 31, 2004 at 10:27
Friday, Dec 31, 2004 at 10:27
Canvas,
If you live in or near
Adelaide, it would be worth you paying a visit to Cameron Canvas, they make 6 x 4 onroad, mid strength and heavy duty offroad trailers.
I reckon what you require is a mid range trailer, not heavy duty, and sounds like it is what you would need for peace of mind when travelling those corrugated roads.
They are at Lonsdale.
Geoff.
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Reply By: ianmc - Friday, Dec 31, 2004 at 12:08
Friday, Dec 31, 2004 at 12:08
Highly recommend shackle type springs over the slippers any day. See so many expensive units around with the latter which chuck them in the air on every bump.
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Reply By: Member - Camper (SA) - Friday, Dec 31, 2004 at 16:13
Friday, Dec 31, 2004 at 16:13
Yep,
I reckon that the advice you have had is pretty good.
Shackles not slippers on springs.
Heavy duty bearings (if you can get them on an on-road jobbie) and grease them occaisionally.
Time spent on maintenance is time
well spent ( even crawling under to look for breaking welds or other damage is a good activity)
Don't try to do more than your rig can handle.
An on-road trailer is lighter and with a light vehicle towing it you will get in less trouble than if you buy the sturdiest off-road and break your vehicle towing it.
The roads to
Arkaroola are sweet-
well made and maintained. Serious corrugations, speed and too heavy loads are the gear wreckers.
Cheers,
Camper
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Reply By: Bob&Deb - Saturday, Jan 01, 2005 at 11:02
Saturday, Jan 01, 2005 at 11:02
G`day Canvas, You have posed your self a question that can be answered only with the passage of time. All the advice given so far is based on the experiences gained from doing it.Up at
William Creek one time and we saw high priced camper trailersitting in the garage there,the trailer was sitting on the ground waiting for a new axle/
suspension to arrive from Pt.
Augusta.We prefer independent axle suspensions for the trailers we build.They cost more but are much softer on the towing vechile,but we feel that matching the diameter of the trailer
wheels to that of the towing vechile is paramount along with quality of material and workmanship.
Keep wandering
Regards Bob
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