How far do some people go?

Submitted: Tuesday, Jan 04, 2005 at 21:47
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Hi all,
A mate has found a late 2001 defender extreme for sale with many extra's including winch for just under 30k.The price sounds good but in just on three years it has done 167,000 kilometres.That equates to over a thousand k,s a week consistently for three years.How do people run up that sort of mileage when it is only around 13,000 k,s to go right around the block?Sounds excessive to me but i have to work for a living and really only get out on week ends.
cheers mark
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Reply By: Savvas - Tuesday, Jan 04, 2005 at 22:15

Tuesday, Jan 04, 2005 at 22:15
I know a guy that commutes Canberra to Sydney each and every weekday. That's 600kms a day!

Crazy if you ask me, but hey it's his choice. I know it would drive me around the bend.
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Follow Up By: marcus - Tuesday, Jan 04, 2005 at 22:21

Tuesday, Jan 04, 2005 at 22:21
Would have to be company car and fuel to even consider it and twelve demerit points over three years would be tested doing those distances.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, Jan 04, 2005 at 22:32

Tuesday, Jan 04, 2005 at 22:32
So your saying he works 8 hours, then drives 6 hours on top of that and has a choice? 14 hour days.
As marcus says you wouldnt possibly do that in your own car.

Yea suppose, when I was drivin trucks, 18 hr days werent uncommon.
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Tuesday, Jan 04, 2005 at 23:37

Tuesday, Jan 04, 2005 at 23:37
i do 5000km a month, 60000km a year, plus what I do in the Patrol on holiday, ticked up a smidge over 65000km this year, all in the company car. I commute 50km to and from work plus trips to luvverly melb and environs
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Follow Up By: Nudenut - Wednesday, Jan 05, 2005 at 07:43

Wednesday, Jan 05, 2005 at 07:43
5000 a month........where do you find the time to get on here
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Follow Up By: Savvas - Wednesday, Jan 05, 2005 at 09:36

Wednesday, Jan 05, 2005 at 09:36
It's an S-class company Merc on an operating lease and he doesn't pay for fuel.

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Follow Up By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Wednesday, Jan 05, 2005 at 10:26

Wednesday, Jan 05, 2005 at 10:26
My Patrol, 17months old, 94,000ks, But easy freeway miles. That defender probably the same, no stop start, no roundabouts , no braking...mmmmmm.. michael
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Follow Up By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Wednesday, Jan 05, 2005 at 10:29

Wednesday, Jan 05, 2005 at 10:29
I do 200 ks a day, 6 days a week, done for 8 years. It does drive you Gaa Gaa..
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Follow Up By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Thursday, Jan 06, 2005 at 13:11

Thursday, Jan 06, 2005 at 13:11
Yup, 70km round trip home to work plus drive for work, 1000kms a week work k's plus personal k's on weekends etc.
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Reply By: Member - Bradley- Tuesday, Jan 04, 2005 at 23:10

Tuesday, Jan 04, 2005 at 23:10
hey, in my last job as a rep, i was travelling 10,000k every 5 weeks or so, got to know the local holden dealer real well... Its probably a novated lease car at the rollover time.
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Follow Up By: Johnno1 - Wednesday, Jan 05, 2005 at 07:39

Wednesday, Jan 05, 2005 at 07:39
Would not touch one of those vehicles if it was half that price with that mileage. Is it turbo Diesel ?

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Reply By: Johnno1 - Wednesday, Jan 05, 2005 at 07:42

Wednesday, Jan 05, 2005 at 07:42
You will see the guy is well off the mark with his asking price.

http://www.redbook.com.au/vehiclesearch/price.asp?key=LAND01AC

Extras and accessories are a straight tear at resale time and all owners know that .

Tell him to get a grip and offer it for high teens because thats all the bucket is worth.
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Follow Up By: Member - Landie - Wednesday, Jan 05, 2005 at 08:14

Wednesday, Jan 05, 2005 at 08:14
You're amazing Johnno1,

Whilst you appear to be a "bit of an expert" you don't even know if it is a Turbo Diesel......yet such a strong view on the resale!

All 2001 models are TD5's - Turbo Diesels.

I don't usually bite at these comments, but it amazes me that people post comments without being informed on what they are talking about.

Fine by me if you don't like the vehicle, everything is a matter of choice, just be more informed first if you intend to rubbish them.

Good luck!

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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Wednesday, Jan 05, 2005 at 09:29

Wednesday, Jan 05, 2005 at 09:29
LMAO! OWNED!!!!
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Follow Up By: Johnno1 - Wednesday, Jan 05, 2005 at 10:01

Wednesday, Jan 05, 2005 at 10:01
Thanks for the information.

It changes my opinion not one bit

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Reply By: Member - Davoe (WA) - Wednesday, Jan 05, 2005 at 11:03

Wednesday, Jan 05, 2005 at 11:03
sure is alot of driving. Motor should be A1 unless it has been flogged sensless for those 167k I was talking to an old taxi driver and he astounded me with some of the miles they got out of their vehicles but they were rarely turned off and left to cool down even oil changes were done in - out. the high km for age should be a good bargaining tool for a cheaper price
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Follow Up By: Johnno1 - Wednesday, Jan 05, 2005 at 11:10

Wednesday, Jan 05, 2005 at 11:10
The fact it has got a Land rover badge is a good bargaining tool for a cheap car. The guy has odds on already tried to trade the car in and was shocked at the value put on it so don't be afraid to hit him low . He has already been given a reality check !!

You should own it for 16-17k . Would not pay a cent more as you will always be on the wrong side of it otherwise. Buy it for that price and get a couple of years of free motoring out of it and then flick it on .
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Follow Up By: Member - Landie - Wednesday, Jan 05, 2005 at 11:56

Wednesday, Jan 05, 2005 at 11:56
Same old....the people that seem to have the most complaints about Landrovers are the ones who have never owned one...

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Follow Up By: Johnno1 - Wednesday, Jan 05, 2005 at 16:21

Wednesday, Jan 05, 2005 at 16:21
Only fools refuse to learn from others mistakes.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Wednesday, Jan 05, 2005 at 23:39

Wednesday, Jan 05, 2005 at 23:39
Dont worry Landie, school holidays only has a few weeks to go.
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Reply By: Bazza - Wednesday, Jan 05, 2005 at 12:11

Wednesday, Jan 05, 2005 at 12:11
It amazes me that so may people concider a vehicle, passenger car or 4WD, stuffed after 100,000 K or so. It was'nt that long ago that if you did'nt get 200,00 miles out of your Kingswood, you'ed bought a lemon. As long a the vehicle's not flogged, regularly serviced and any repairs done when required, high K's should'nt be a problem in regard to reliability, only the markets reflection of resale value will be the issue. IMHO I'd rather buy a vehicle with high freeway K's than one that's been flogged to death off-road with half the K's.
I travel in excess of 45,000 K annualy just commuting to work and back. Why?.... Because in my line of work the salary is usually $20-25,000 more, working from the city than the suburbs.
Bazza.
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Reply By: MRTEE ( VIC ) - Wednesday, Jan 05, 2005 at 20:42

Wednesday, Jan 05, 2005 at 20:42
I agree with you landie, so many experts on Land Rover have never owned one yet they hate them so much with no balance in their criticism of them. The only reason toyota and nissan have a good product is because for years they tried to better rover but never did so they copied the range rover drive train and suspension. range rover was voted 4x4 of the year so many times it won the 4x4 of the decade award and yes toyota and nissan have won many things too since they copied it; there are many countries in the world where tribal people live with no ciivilisation what so ever that have only ever seen a land rover no other vehicles; 80% of all land rovers built are still in use today all of this is because they are crap I DONT THINK SO the question asked was how far do some people go !!! cheers tony
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Follow Up By: Johnno1 - Wednesday, Jan 05, 2005 at 21:55

Wednesday, Jan 05, 2005 at 21:55
If Land Rover are so good then why don't any of the worlds oil companies want them ? Why is their Jd Powers reliability ratings at the bottom of the class ? why do they lose so much in resale ? why are parts so expensive ?

I love your 80 % in use today quote.. LOL !!

That is attempted humour ?

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Follow Up By: Johnno1 - Wednesday, Jan 05, 2005 at 22:02

Wednesday, Jan 05, 2005 at 22:02
quote:

Land Rover owners had the most complaints, however, with 44 claims per 100 policies.

http://www.channel4.com/4car/news/news-story.jsp?news_id=6046
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Reply By: Member - Landie - Thursday, Jan 06, 2005 at 12:06

Thursday, Jan 06, 2005 at 12:06
Johnno

We can all find stories and stats to back our view. But, importantly we all have our own preferences. Clearly, you are not a fan of Landrover and there is nothing wrong with that at all.

However, this thread started with someone askiong about a Landrover Defender for sale and was obviosuly looking for balance views and opinions.

So far you have stuck your 10 cents worth in despite being uninformed about the power system of the vehicle. Either provide some factual information for the poster and in a balanced way, or move on - most will accept you don't like them and leave it at that.

As for redbook values - they are a guide (yes guide), and bear little resemblance to the prices that these vehicles often change hands for.

My last word...........good luck, try and move on if you can't offer something a little more constructive.

Landie (forever!)
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Reply By: Disco200Tdi - Thursday, Jan 06, 2005 at 12:15

Thursday, Jan 06, 2005 at 12:15
Defender's are expensive because not many are sold every year. What happens is there is just enough around for the land rover die hards so that keeps the price up.
Glass's price guide means nothing when buying a 'fender.

Another thing to note is that the Tdi engine and probably TD5 only have a life expectincey of about 350K before needing a rebuilt and I believe the TD5 is not rebuildable, ie liners are not replaceable. Maybe the k's will give your mate some bargaining power ?

John D - Disco 200 Tdi

PS Johnno the more BS you spit out the more it makes me want to keep my landie forever just to spite you.
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Reply By: MRTEE ( VIC ) - Sunday, Jan 09, 2005 at 14:20

Sunday, Jan 09, 2005 at 14:20
Johnno
The 80% quote is a fact according to a landrover web site ;I find it hard to believe they would make it up for the whole world to see and judge if it was not true !! Do you really think you know better than the information that land rover put out; the fact that you are laughing about it speaks volumes. I don't dispute some of your criticism of rover, they have made many mistakes over the years, no manufacturer is perfect. But if you do some home work on the subject you will see how ridiculous you sound; and more people would listen to your point of view if you had some balance in your views. Why don't you do some research on the Camel Trophy and see how many countries all around the world it has been held in & how the competitors rate Land Rover & it's capabilities.

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