Noise from Front Wheels on an 88 Pajero
Submitted: Thursday, Jan 06, 2005 at 10:04
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tcp_ip_boy
Morning all. Just a quick query.
I have just bought a 1988 TD Pajero (NF, I think, with the rear leaf
suspension) with 47000km's on the clock (yes thats right, 47000km's!). It is an import, but it looks absolutely immaculate underneath (looks like a new car), the engine runs lovely, and the interior is top notch, so the km's look pretty much right.
Anyway, when the steering is fully locked to either right or left, there is a screaching sound, like
suspension being worked out. One time I also smelt a bit of a rubbery smell. Anyone have any ideas? It is only on full lock, so I am suspecting rubbing tyres would be the rubbery smell. They look slightlt larger than normal.
thanks in advance
Chump
Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Thursday, Jan 06, 2005 at 10:42
Thursday, Jan 06, 2005 at 10:42
47000km's on the clock (yes thats right, 47000km's!). It is an import..
well since its an import, I wouldnt believe them klms... specially for the age.
Anyway onto the noise.
Have you taken it back to where you bought it? What did they say?
Is it at any speed it makes the sound? EG could it be oversteer the tires are actually sliding?
Turn it to full lock, jump under and have a look to see if its hitting, or really close to hitting - the extra stress of it when driving may push it that little bit closer to hit on something.
You may have worn bushes, allowing the tire to turn that little bit more when on full lock.. eg flexing on the worn bush, and hitting on something inside the wheel arch.
As the other bloke said, try the steering stops, maybe wind them out 1cm to see if that stops it.
What size tires are they? On what sized rims?
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Follow Up By: tcp_ip_boy - Thursday, Jan 06, 2005 at 10:56
Thursday, Jan 06, 2005 at 10:56
The 47000km's seem genuine - the car is in such good condition.
Anyway, it happens whenever they are on full lock, and the car is moving. So no understeer or anything.
And the car yard has sold the car, and moved on. They pointed me towards the warranty company....
I'll pop under tonight and have a bit of a look-see. The bushes could be worn, as I would say they are still the originals. I am planning a
suspension lift in the near future anyway, so they will all get done then. It could happen sooner rather than later.
As to the tyres, BFG's, 215's, a little bit taller than normal (sorry, it was dark when I was looking last night....). Rims look to be about 7" wide.
I was hoping for someone to come on with a definite answer that started something like "gee, the 88 Pajero had this weird problemwith the steering....."
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Thursday, Jan 06, 2005 at 10:57
Thursday, Jan 06, 2005 at 10:57
Also a basic one - what pressures in the tires? What tires are they? Could be Willems Kellys, they screech going round corners!
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Follow Up By: tcp_ip_boy - Thursday, Jan 06, 2005 at 11:04
Thursday, Jan 06, 2005 at 11:04
Tyres are 35psi all round. Checked that about 2 minutes after leaving the
shop.
The noise happens on our gravel driveway. I can see where you are going with this, but I think not in this case.
I'll have a bit of a look tonight. One of the reasons I went for an older unit like this was hopefully problems would be easy to find than in my Defender.
I am just being lazy, and hoping someone would have a definitive answer.
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Follow Up By: flappan - Thursday, Jan 06, 2005 at 11:20
Thursday, Jan 06, 2005 at 11:20
At first I would have said Power Steering, but you say it isn't.
My 90 NG runs 235/75/R15 tyres , and they "just" run on the inner rubber guards on full turn. They are on 6.5 inch wheels (the standard Chrome Wheels).
It could be that you're tyres are rubbing slightly , possibly by a combination of things. Play in the steering , bushes , stops not adjusted correctly , those sorts of things.
47000 in 16 years. approx 3000 k's per year on an old Turbo diesel ???
Hmmm . . .
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Thursday, Jan 06, 2005 at 11:22
Thursday, Jan 06, 2005 at 11:22
The dealership have what?
How long have you had it?
I would take it to a very reputable 4wd place and have a complete service, grease job done on it.
They will report any issues.
Where do u live? If in Melb, I can recommend a couple of
places..
Alan at Outback accessories in Seaford would be my first stop.
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Follow Up By: tcp_ip_boy - Thursday, Jan 06, 2005 at 11:56
Thursday, Jan 06, 2005 at 11:56
I picked up the car yesterday. It came with a full engineers report (on engin emissions, drive train, etc.. for the importation) and a blue slip for rego, which is pretty thorough.
I'm in
Sydney. I live down the road from Old Man Emu, who do 4WD servicing.
If you can suggest anyone else, I am all ears.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Thursday, Jan 06, 2005 at 12:24
Thursday, Jan 06, 2005 at 12:24
You picked it up yesterday, and theres not a 1 day warranty?
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