Radiator fan problems

Not trying to start Nissan v Toyota HA
very loaded question I have driven only toyotas and have never had an issue with drivetrain or motor which includes way overloading them with samples over rough pit floors. Springs do break. I have used Toyotas for some very heavy duty work but unfortunately I have not got to put a nisssan through same stuff otherwise I might finally be able to better answer this Q
Best answer I heard was "as there is no clear winner the debate rages on"

Wan't trying to start another but Rob was saying he had driven both so thought he might have some valuable info. I tend to think the same, both are as good as each other just different.

you got me thinking a bit more about asking peoples opinions. I used to work with mapping geos that had worked in a few different countries so I asked a simular question and got told that the worst vehicle she had been in was a landrover. When I pumped her for more info expecting tales of blown diffs wrecked motors etc she replied "hasnt got a dash on it like this one (hzj78) I had no where to put my maps and photos"

True, depends on what emphasis you put on what area I guess.

Thougt long and hard about whether I wanted to get involved in this one but here goes a persoal opinion only. I feel the Patrols have stronger drive trains better diffs specially the LSD also a good h\brake The Tojo has better lower range transfer casebleepty LSD and h\brake. The 4.2 lt diesels in both are much of a muchness and in both trucks some are slugs and some go like the clappers, lots of variation from someone who has driven lots of both. I feel the Tojos generally have a stronger tighter coach builder than Nissan tho I have driven a few very poor 80 series specially the first 4.5 petrols. Up here Tojos hold their value very well. I feel the tojos are getting softer each model where as the Patrols have stayed tuff. Just as a matter of interest I bought a new Pajero GLS 3.5 lt in 97 $45k It was a ripper car till now the best compromise 4wd I had owned, but 3 years later could only get $28k for it, the most I have ever lost on a vehicle in such a short time. I currently have an 100 series 03 T\D auto that I bought 18 months old 58k klms that best suits my use as a tour guide. You can not buy a bad vehicle today the trick is to buy the one that best suits your intended use. Here endeth the lesson.
Cheers Rob

Well said. Generally what I thought but having only driven a few of each didn't feel like I had enough experience to make the decission. Thanks

I thought this trick could destroy the fan clutch.

How do you turn the fans off - afaik they are the same fluid/clutch fan but sit a bit closer to the radiator due to its thickness. not electric

I thought back in those days befor a/c and p/s you just pulled off the 1 fan belt. Saw a fixed blade cruiser stop in only 700mm water coz the fan chucked water all over it (petrol) at the King Edward river crossing. Quite funny as Hubby (German couple) was on the other side waiting for his missus to cross so he could get the photo (I rescued them with a can of crc)

Willem - that's exactly what i did when setting up the Patrol for comp work - drilled a hole in one blade and fixed a piece of wire that is connected to the shroud at the other end. When I'm about to do a water or deep mud course, I slip the wire (with a hooked end) into the hole in the blade and she stops running - and slips against the viscous clutch for the crossing. As soon as I'm clear, I disconnect the blade.

G'Day Fozzy,
Yep I know Tony, still a good bloke. At this stage, according to the dealer here in Cairns, depite the numbers that are appearing, Toyota are claiming driver error. Found an after market fan with much stiffer blades designed for the 80 series which itself has much stiffer blades. When I went to install it I found there was already damage to my radiator but no leak yet. I have not been through water deeper than about 300 mm or 12 " I spoke to my mechanic who has already had one radiator relaced and we had a look at his new radiator and it was also damaged again. He had only driven to Rocky and back since putting the radiator in and was at a loss to know what had caused it. Was he everbleepoff he had spent $1100 on a new radiator and damaged again. I would advise anyone who has a 100 series cruiser to have a very close look at the back of the radator before any damage is done to thier engine. Please let me know if you find anything. I have heard, hersay I admit, that some insurance companies have had to pay out considerable amounts for engines damaged this way. Guys I have owned and driven mainly Tojos for over 30 years and obviously have a soft spot for them. Depite the problem my current 100 TD is the best I have owned. Cheers Rob

Wayne the fan blades are very very flexible much more so than any previous Tojo 4wd I have seen. I keep wondering why " if it ain't broke why change things" Cheers Rob