Inverters

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For those of you who use inverters, what size do you use and what do you use them for?
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Reply By: rig pig - Wednesday, Jan 12, 2005 at 02:35

Wednesday, Jan 12, 2005 at 02:35
800 watt from dick's, $300, bread maker and power tools around home when the power goes off.
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Reply By: Wok - Wednesday, Jan 12, 2005 at 06:35

Wednesday, Jan 12, 2005 at 06:35
Trace 600W : lights & radio at home in power outages
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Reply By: Wayne (NSW) - Wednesday, Jan 12, 2005 at 06:55

Wednesday, Jan 12, 2005 at 06:55
Have a Bushranger 600 watt fixed to the cargo barrier.

Charging camera and sat phone batteries most of the time on trips. Have used a electric drill in the bush but not that often

Wayne
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Reply By: Member - Sand Man (SA) - Wednesday, Jan 12, 2005 at 07:28

Wednesday, Jan 12, 2005 at 07:28
If you are only wanting to charge Camera batteries, Laptop etc. then a 300watt unit is a practical investment that will provide you with reasonable flexibility at minimal cost. (square wave unit should suffice)

If you wish to light up the entire camping area, power the getto blaster, run the hair dryer, bread maker, toaster and recharge auto batteries, all at the same time, then I would reaccess the style of Camping one is indulging in :-)
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Wednesday, Jan 12, 2005 at 17:25

Wednesday, Jan 12, 2005 at 17:25
or get a 1800w unit like Eric has
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Reply By: Squizzy - Wednesday, Jan 12, 2005 at 07:29

Wednesday, Jan 12, 2005 at 07:29
500W power tech pure sine wave from Jaycar.
Used for charging video, laptop, digital camera, phones, etc.
Good for camp lighting.
Handy when in remote areas for power tools too.
Could be used in power outages at home, but haven't yet.

Geoff.
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Follow Up By: crfan - Wednesday, Jan 12, 2005 at 11:07

Wednesday, Jan 12, 2005 at 11:07
Hi Squizzy would $305 for a 500w pure sine wave power tech be a good price. What did you pay for your's?
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Follow Up By: GeeTee - Wednesday, Jan 12, 2005 at 11:45

Wednesday, Jan 12, 2005 at 11:45
Hi, Jacar cat price 2004 is $329 ... still a good price for pure sine wave ? ?

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Follow Up By: Squizzy - Wednesday, Jan 12, 2005 at 15:42

Wednesday, Jan 12, 2005 at 15:42
$305 is a good price.
You can generally say $1 per watt when talking pure sine wave.

Buy it while at that price.

Geoff
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Thursday, Jan 13, 2005 at 09:46

Thursday, Jan 13, 2005 at 09:46
hee heee. Ive foudn out a mate runs a jaycar in melb here :)

$220 for the 500w pure sinewave unit...
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Follow Up By: GeeTee - Thursday, Jan 13, 2005 at 12:02

Thursday, Jan 13, 2005 at 12:02
Hi Truckster, Tootled off to Jaycar yesterday and paid $329 for the 500W Powertech. Looks the goods. Check out the size of the supplied battery cables ! ! Your price sounds pretty good to me ! I have a mod. sine wave 300W unit but will use that for non important items.

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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Thursday, Jan 13, 2005 at 15:16

Thursday, Jan 13, 2005 at 15:16
Yea pretty much get their buy price :) or so Im told, waiting to have some spare coin, and I'll test out his price...
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Reply By: Lone Wolf - Wednesday, Jan 12, 2005 at 07:41

Wednesday, Jan 12, 2005 at 07:41
300 DSE Pure Sine mounted on the rear cargo barrier.

Only run CPCP.

I charge my toys ( iPod, Phone & Camera ) with 12 volt.

Normally a modified square wave is sufficient for me, but the small ceramic heater on the humidifier on the CPAP ( winter ) requires Pure Sine wave.
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Reply By: David Au - Wednesday, Jan 12, 2005 at 08:01

Wednesday, Jan 12, 2005 at 08:01
150w Pure Sine Wave Jaycar - satellite TV receiver, charge my laptop, charge Makita torch battery, charge Remington shaver.

500w Pure Sine Wave Jaycar - run the washing machine

10w on 240vAC equates normally to about 1.1 amps on 12vDC, so 100w on 240vAC would be approximately 11.0amps on 12vDC
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Follow Up By: GeeTee - Wednesday, Jan 12, 2005 at 11:36

Wednesday, Jan 12, 2005 at 11:36
Hi David, Interested in your post re the 500W powertech inverter (pure sine wave) running your washing machine. Is the inverter cat MI-5085 from Jaycar and is your machine a Lemair ? I guess a normal 90 - 100 AH battery would suffice.

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Follow Up By: David Au - Wednesday, Jan 12, 2005 at 15:22

Wednesday, Jan 12, 2005 at 15:22
GeeTee yes, my washing machine is a Lemair - and have had it running on a 300w inverter. They take less than 300w - around 280w on spin if my memory serves me correctly and 255w washing.
Around 30.0 amps from a 100aH battery is a tad ouch. The rating on a 100Ah is preferably to keep it around 20 amps or 20% of capacity for battery longevity. I do run mine from the 100Ah battery, but I do have 300w of solar going into the battery while the washing machine is on.
Check your battery specifications and see what they recommend.
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Reply By: Matt (W.A.) - Wednesday, Jan 12, 2005 at 09:06

Wednesday, Jan 12, 2005 at 09:06
I don't want Hijack this Post but can someone Explain the Difference between Pure Sine Wave and Modified Sine Wave Inverters For the Electrically challenged(ME)! this would be helpfull.
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Follow Up By: David Au - Wednesday, Jan 12, 2005 at 10:47

Wednesday, Jan 12, 2005 at 10:47
A modified sine wave is a sawtooth style square wave and only 'approximates' mains power. Pure sine wave is like you get out of your power outlets at home.

Some devices will not run at all from modified sine wave.

Some power supplies and in particular switching (no transformer) power supplies can run hot to very hot to dangeriously hot

Things like electric drills and generally all power tools with a universal style motor will happily run from modified sine wave, heating elements, incandescent light bulbs.

For example my Makita battery charger gets dangerously hot, and my Remington razor charger will not charge at all modified sine wave.

Generally speaking things like laptop power supplies, video and camera battery chargers, satellite receivers, video and DVD players, TV etc. are far better off running from PURE sine wave.
The pure sine wave inverters are generally substantially more efficient than the modified sine wave. The little Jaycar (PowerTech) 150w pure sine wave I use is approximately 92% efficient. Most of the modified sine wave are only in the order of 80% to 85% efficient.
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Follow Up By: Matt (W.A.) - Wednesday, Jan 12, 2005 at 19:49

Wednesday, Jan 12, 2005 at 19:49
Excellent!
Thanks Heaps David I’ll be on my way to Jaycar For a Pure Sine Wave Inverter. your Explanation was Excellent.
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Reply By: Willem - Wednesday, Jan 12, 2005 at 09:27

Wednesday, Jan 12, 2005 at 09:27
Member Eric(on holidays at the moment) has a 1700W inverter strapped to the cargo barrier of his 80. He runs a complete interpersonal Movie Cinema inside his truck with individual outlets to all passengers and twin cinema(dvd) screens. The sound is loud enough to wake the dead lol

My set up is more simplistic. I run a Pure Sine Wave 150W Powertech(Jaycar) to charge batteries and run the laptop or mechanics fluoro light. Mine lives in the armrest cavity between the front seats
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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic) - Thursday, Jan 13, 2005 at 08:27

Thursday, Jan 13, 2005 at 08:27
Can't remember what mine is Willie but it lives in the same spot. Is a plain and ordinary one that runs the laptop and chargers and the occasional trouble light. Thinking I will have to get a Pure Sine Wave soon too in the camper.
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Reply By: Mad Dog (Victoria) - Wednesday, Jan 12, 2005 at 09:45

Wednesday, Jan 12, 2005 at 09:45
150 watt SEA pure sinewave installed in ute tub, used for battery charging...shaver, laptop, camera, movie camera, phone, torch, handheld radio.
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Reply By: Member - Miles & Janine(Vic) - Wednesday, Jan 12, 2005 at 10:35

Wednesday, Jan 12, 2005 at 10:35
Great results guys, thanks a pile. Its like gaining the experience without leaving home. huge help. Miles
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Reply By: Member - Melissa - Thursday, Jan 13, 2005 at 23:38

Thursday, Jan 13, 2005 at 23:38
Miles,

We're running a Digitor 300W modified sine wave inverter, $120 from DSE. Using this run/charge laptop, phone batteries and digi camera battery. Works a treat.

:o) Melissa
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