Geez I'm clever.

Submitted: Wednesday, Jan 12, 2005 at 22:27
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Well perhaps I'm stupid, but my gas stove stopped working on one of the three burners, one other was burning very slowly and the one in the middle worked like new.

After due consideration I worked out the one in the middle that worked well had hardly been used, the one on the left that had had the most work had stopped, and the one on the right that had been used a fair bit was struggling.

After trying three gas bottles I worked out it wasn't a gas problem (thanks Glenn).

So tonight I pulled the stove out of the camper, disasembled it, removed the jets and blasted christ out of them with a 12 volt compresssor.

Hey presto, the stove works like new on all three burners.

Seems that bottled gas contains some impurities that foul the jets eventually.

Anyway, a bit of fiddling saved me buying a new stove.

I'm so impressed with myself I think I'll write a book about me.

Anyone like to write the "Foreword".

The opening line "Jim is a D!ckhead" will not be accepted.

Cheers,

Jim.
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Reply By: Mad Dog (Victoria) - Wednesday, Jan 12, 2005 at 22:45

Wednesday, Jan 12, 2005 at 22:45
Well at least you did something worthwhile. I just sat around all day, yelling at kids and watching posts getting deleted by the bucket loads.

Yeah, dirty Gas, just like the petrol and diesel we have to put up with
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Follow Up By: firestang - Wednesday, Jan 12, 2005 at 22:54

Wednesday, Jan 12, 2005 at 22:54
Jimbo , there is no actual crud in the gas ,the reason this happens is this .
The stream of gas that psses through the injector at speed creates a very small area of low presure and draws dust to the face of the injector .
It can't cover the hole as the gas is passing through but over time it builds up and starts to restrict the flow more and more untill one days it stuffs up . That is why the non used burners are still ok , this is why pilot lights in gas units always get blocked

Hope thats easy to understand ,didn't want to get to techo on ya .
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Follow Up By: Member - Jimbo (VIC) - Wednesday, Jan 12, 2005 at 22:59

Wednesday, Jan 12, 2005 at 22:59
Thanks F/S.

I assume it is something I willhave to do from time to time?
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Follow Up By: firestang - Thursday, Jan 13, 2005 at 07:02

Thursday, Jan 13, 2005 at 07:02
Every 12 months is a good idea , when you do your maintenance shedule just add one more thing . It only takes two minutes as you know and saves heaps of heartache.
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Follow Up By: Nudenut - Thursday, Jan 13, 2005 at 08:13

Thursday, Jan 13, 2005 at 08:13
Jimbo

Another reason for blocked jets could be

has your gas stove ever flared up....the trick is to run dry the pipework by letting the burner go out with out by turning off the bottle only?

The if you turn off at the burner and leave the gas bottle open the gas vapours liquify in the pipework and liquids carry dust etc thru to the jets.
To stop dust being carried thru to jet put a little cotton wool behind jet.

Firestang. the pilot light in my gas heater has never gone out (except for when gas supply has been turned off) and its some 10yrs old....
I do see where your coming from with your eddy currents but I'm not sure that would be the cause....
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Follow Up By: firestang - Thursday, Jan 13, 2005 at 13:23

Thursday, Jan 13, 2005 at 13:23
You are right about the crap in the pipes but thats really only in new istallations where the copper has been welded and scale forms within them .
Within apliance regulators there is usually a mesh filter to stop this but camp stoves in both vans and free standing would only have this problem unless they have either been disconnected near the appliance or tampered with .Sometimes the grease on the gas taps can block the holes in the barrels but it's rare.

The reason i come up with these ideas is that it's what i did for about 20 years ,gas appliance repair, installation and maintenance on both LPG and Nat gas, comercial and domestic , prior to my new line of work .
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Follow Up By: Nudenut - Thursday, Jan 13, 2005 at 14:14

Thursday, Jan 13, 2005 at 14:14
as mine is a camping stove and needs to be packed away every time and thus suseptable to contamination....

Have you actually proven they get a build up dirt across the face due to eddy currents or could it be the rapid expansion of the vapour depositing its impurities.

So why does it not happen on pilot flame on my gas heater...mmm maybe I can answer....cos its natural gas at a lower pressure? meaning not such a violent eddy stirring up the dust etc?
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Follow Up By: firestang - Friday, Jan 14, 2005 at 07:26

Friday, Jan 14, 2005 at 07:26
Yeah packing away would do it .

No i havnt proven this but to me it's the only logical way for very fine particals to build up over time and block holes just on or under 1mm in diameter, but remember its just my way of thinking .

Natural gas and LPG are the same pressure after the regualtor ,every natural gas unit has a reg either just before it or built into the control unit .Or in a BBQ's case way back at the gas meter as it's not as high tech as other appliances .

Remember that you can have a BBQ out the back and convet it to nat from lpg or visa versa and still 99 percent of the time use the same burners . it just needs the injectors changed.

enough waffle i have a new 4X4 and i'm off to play with it
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Reply By: member-Diamond(vic) - Wednesday, Jan 12, 2005 at 22:47

Wednesday, Jan 12, 2005 at 22:47
please refrain from using.
jim is a dick head.
people might get confused lol
cheers
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Follow Up By: Nudenut - Thursday, Jan 13, 2005 at 14:16

Thursday, Jan 13, 2005 at 14:16
confused with whom?
richard cranium?
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Follow Up By: Member - Bradley- Thursday, Jan 13, 2005 at 21:40

Thursday, Jan 13, 2005 at 21:40
whats this - Member Diamond ?? you back with a vengance, or just a big spoon ?
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Reply By: Member - Smocky (NSW) - Thursday, Jan 13, 2005 at 01:04

Thursday, Jan 13, 2005 at 01:04
I know there was a thread the other day about changing the way this forum works and I stayed well out of it.

Jimbo, this thread is a perfect example of why I LOVE this site exactly as it is.

I've logged on tonight and started browsing through all of the threads since I'd been on last. Not just looking for topics I want, but anything interesting. Then I come across a strange thread about how you are saying how clever you are. I have a read and right there in front of me is a possible solution to perhaps why one of MY jets isn't working. The one which we always use coincidentally.

I'm off now to blow the bejeezers out of it with the 240V compressor and see if I can fix it. We were just about to buy a new stove too.

Jimbo, you really are clever (at least for the moment anyway.)

Cheers,

Smocky.
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Follow Up By: Lucky Vic - Thursday, Jan 13, 2005 at 07:14

Thursday, Jan 13, 2005 at 07:14
And how exactly would you not find this thread in another forum ?

You make no sense.
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Follow Up By: Member - Smocky (NSW) - Thursday, Jan 13, 2005 at 13:02

Thursday, Jan 13, 2005 at 13:02
Well, at the risk of inviting another reply from you that I'm not sure I want, I'll tell you.

If you break up all the threads into topics, there is a tendency not to read things you aren't interested in. But scanning down the subjects as I currently do, I click on thread subjects that sound interesting despite their topic.

I don't want to get involved in another argument, it's just mu opinion that this layout is fine for this type of forum and doesn't need changing.

Please resist the urge to reply back and tell me how wrong I am.

Cheers,

Smocky.
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Follow Up By: Des Lexic - Thursday, Jan 13, 2005 at 15:18

Thursday, Jan 13, 2005 at 15:18
Smocky, I can't resist the urge to reply to you so here go's.

Your dead right and I agree whole heartedly.
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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic) - Thursday, Jan 13, 2005 at 15:20

Thursday, Jan 13, 2005 at 15:20
Smocky, you are spot on about the interesting thread and not finding it in other places. This forum is so multifactoral with so many associated and unassociated problems solved. There could be quite a few stoves kept in service just by Jimbos' comments.

I will be pleased when school goes back though..........
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Reply By: Al & Mrs Al (Vic) - Thursday, Jan 13, 2005 at 07:17

Thursday, Jan 13, 2005 at 07:17
Foreward:

Jim or Jimbo to his near and dearest entered the world of 4wding and camping with a burst of bright light late in 2004. His Hyundai Terracan continues to astound the purists who believe the real 4wding can only be accomplished in large lifted trucks with huge tyres driven by macho types seeking mud and rocks. His onroad camper is fitted with the creature comforts of home including an astounding amount of illumination and cooking appliances. He has become well known for his in the field tests including a most thorough assessment of solar power and is not afraid to say what he feels. His campoven chicken has to be tasted to be believed and his ability to air thaw frozen meat is a sight a to behold. His knowledge of the the solar system is amazing and his love for his fellow man is admirable.

In short, this book "Jimbo - Geez I'm Good" is a fantastic read of one mans effort to be taken seriously in a world where so much crap is written by so many.

Enjoy !

Mrs. Al

[Mrs. Al is currently writing her own book, how to survive camping with 2 small children whilst one hand is stirring the pot and the other is moving the solar panel]
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Thursday, Jan 13, 2005 at 10:18

Thursday, Jan 13, 2005 at 10:18
Lyn,
Jimbo asked me to tell you that his cheque is in the mail...LOLOL

I'll remember to contact you when I decide to write a book about how great I am. I've already got the title sorted but that's all.......

"FIGJAM" by Roachie
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Follow Up By: Al & Mrs Al (Vic) - Thursday, Jan 13, 2005 at 10:35

Thursday, Jan 13, 2005 at 10:35
Hi Roachie, I'll a an eye on the post :)

shouldn't be too hard to write a foreword for a book entitled FIGJAM
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Follow Up By: Al & Mrs Al (Vic) - Thursday, Jan 13, 2005 at 10:35

Thursday, Jan 13, 2005 at 10:35
that's keep an eye on the post!
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Follow Up By: Des Lexic - Thursday, Jan 13, 2005 at 15:22

Thursday, Jan 13, 2005 at 15:22
Pray tell, What has recipee's using figjam got to do with 4WD's
I much prefer Strawberry Jam myself.
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Follow Up By: Member - Smocky (NSW) - Thursday, Jan 13, 2005 at 16:16

Thursday, Jan 13, 2005 at 16:16
Hi Mrs Al,

We're heading down to Jervis Bay for 2 weeks with a 6yo Boy (who knows everything) and a 3.5 yo girl (whom thinks she can get everything by putting on a cute face). I wish that book of yours was finished as I could really use it.

Looking forward to what would be a most enlightening (and no doubt entertaining) read.

Best wishes,

Smocky.
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Follow Up By: GOB & denny vic member - Thursday, Jan 13, 2005 at 18:24

Thursday, Jan 13, 2005 at 18:24
goodday lyn
i hadnt heard about you stirring the pot
but there are other rumours
lolololol

steve
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Follow Up By: GOB & denny vic member - Thursday, Jan 13, 2005 at 18:26

Thursday, Jan 13, 2005 at 18:26
sorry roachie you will have to find another book name as that is 1 of the # plates on our caravan

steve
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Follow Up By: Al & Mrs Al (Vic) - Thursday, Jan 13, 2005 at 18:29

Thursday, Jan 13, 2005 at 18:29
OMG what rumours.....

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Follow Up By: GOB & denny vic member - Thursday, Jan 13, 2005 at 21:28

Thursday, Jan 13, 2005 at 21:28
dunno but there must be a couple floating around

lolololol
steve
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Reply By: Lone Wolf - Thursday, Jan 13, 2005 at 08:06

Thursday, Jan 13, 2005 at 08:06
"I'm so impressed with myself I think I'll write a book about me.

Anyone like to write the "Foreword". "

It was dark, and bullets were flying overhead. Corporal Smith was wounded, and the Sergeant was dead. Private Jimbo crawled over to Smith, and said "Corp, what if we aim our compressor at the overhead jets in the sky?"

"By Jingo Jimbo!" Said Smith..........

Other forumites may add on from here.......
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Reply By: Willem - Thursday, Jan 13, 2005 at 08:39

Thursday, Jan 13, 2005 at 08:39
Foreword

"BOOOOM".........................................!

Jimbo staggered out of the haze of acrid smoke, dust and debris.

As the smoke lifted, bits of a home made camper trailer could be seen scattered all around the clearing. A severely charred Hyundai Terracan with its tail gate open, stood under the trees. A solar panel hung from a coolibah tree dangling there with chords flapping in the breeze. A Waeco fridge lay on it side with lights blinking and its contents thrown out. A faint but audible sound emerged from the fridge.

" Exterminate, exterminate' a small voice said.

It looked like a war zone. Jimbo checked himself over. Arms...OK, legs...OK, back...OK, torso....OK, head....well!!! But he had survived, thank goodness.

"I will Never Never Never ever smoke again while working on my gas stove" said Jimbo wistfully to himself. " I think I'll go home and write a book."

And this Dearly Beloved Reader(to quote Rudyard Kipling) is the start of a book of diatribe and verbal diarroeha in which Jimbo extolls the virtues of his foresight and experiments while emulating those who have gone before him and his greatest Hero, the All knowing, Russel Coight.

It is a MUST read
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Follow Up By: Robbg - Thursday, Jan 13, 2005 at 11:37

Thursday, Jan 13, 2005 at 11:37
" Exterminate, exterminate' a small voice said.
Fantastic Willem, ROTFLMAO!
Rob.
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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic) - Thursday, Jan 13, 2005 at 15:27

Thursday, Jan 13, 2005 at 15:27
Wllie, I think it's time to introduce the Des Lexic self crossing, -as you do -, in the Christian manner, "spectacles, testicles, wallet and watch" Having checked you have all those you can be assured you can walk out the door almost all in one piece............. Russel Coight probably taught Des that one though.
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Reply By: Redeye - Thursday, Jan 13, 2005 at 08:42

Thursday, Jan 13, 2005 at 08:42
Hi Jimbo,

Had the same problem on Fraser over Xmas.

The answer for me was to boil the jet in vinegar for a few minutes.

The jet worked fine after that.

Garry
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Reply By: Member - Sand Man (SA) - Thursday, Jan 13, 2005 at 08:51

Thursday, Jan 13, 2005 at 08:51
Jim,

Had the same trouble with my stove late last year, after traversing dusty (bulldust) tracks.

Temporary solution: Clean the jets which takes air pressure to do properly.

Permanent solution: Chucked the old stove and bought a Coleman. (no jets to block)

Just requires some lateral thinking mate.
Bill


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Follow Up By: beatit - Thursday, Jan 13, 2005 at 09:10

Thursday, Jan 13, 2005 at 09:10
Did the same Sandman, after several blockages on one trip I found that the wd40 straw nozzle under presure worked just great for this though. I can forget that neat little trick with the Colemen.

Kind regards
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Reply By: masti - Thursday, Jan 13, 2005 at 19:47

Thursday, Jan 13, 2005 at 19:47
Foreword: Well what can i say except that Jim like most campers and four wheel drivers has a gas problem. As an expert camper/4wheel driver he learned to cure his own gas problem pity it was only to do with the stove and not the other gas problem campers/4wheel drivers are afflicted with that is why I'm writing this from another city. :)
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Follow Up By: Lone Wolf - Thursday, Jan 13, 2005 at 21:42

Thursday, Jan 13, 2005 at 21:42
Written and spoken by masti for the gas party in another gasless city. :)
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