Advice on Buying a Nissan Patrol

Submitted: Tuesday, Jan 18, 2005 at 06:28
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Hi All
New to this site and this is my first post. I have been 4wding for quiet a while and currently have a Toyota Prado (Petrol). Im keen to move over to a Turbo Deisel Nissan Patrol and am after some opinions and advice on which is the better way to go. ie the 3.0ltr TD or the 4.2ltr.

I dont tow anything ie Camper ect, but when travelling the car is usually pretty packed ie Draws, Roof rack, Fuel and water ect...Type of 4wding/touring is usually Mountain area;s ie Blue Mountains, Yawal and am planning the Vic High Country for April.

Also after feedback on "what to look out for in the Patrols" or any other advice the group can offer.

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Reply By: Gone 4by'ing - Tuesday, Jan 18, 2005 at 06:41

Tuesday, Jan 18, 2005 at 06:41
Look out for the 3.0lt. It is getting some bad deserved press.

4.2 will do you fine.

Welcome to the Patrol club :)
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Reply By: Bros - Tuesday, Jan 18, 2005 at 08:13

Tuesday, Jan 18, 2005 at 08:13
adlitt,
I don't know if a nissan is going to help you if a taipan bites you. LOL.
Good luck with what you choose.
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Reply By: Baz (NSW) - Tuesday, Jan 18, 2005 at 08:28

Tuesday, Jan 18, 2005 at 08:28
No disrespect to the Patrol a fine vehicle but have you considered a 3.0l turbo diesel prado from all accounts a very good car.
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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic) - Tuesday, Jan 18, 2005 at 08:32

Tuesday, Jan 18, 2005 at 08:32
so that is the path post Exploder Baz? LOL No need to answer that!
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Follow Up By: Baz (NSW) - Tuesday, Jan 18, 2005 at 08:44

Tuesday, Jan 18, 2005 at 08:44
Close but no cigar
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Tuesday, Jan 18, 2005 at 16:52

Tuesday, Jan 18, 2005 at 16:52
Ahhh Sensei, the Prado is indeed a fine vehicle. As is the current GUIII TD 3.0, for size and beam axles I would go Patrol and the current 3.0. If you're buying used go the 4.2.

Baz I cant WAIT to see your knew wheels, just hope its not scared of water or Vic High Country like the sadly demised Explorer. A Territory is an excellent vehicle, ARB have a 6" lift kit n the wings for it,some 35's and jobs right

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Reply By: kiss'n'dirt - Tuesday, Jan 18, 2005 at 09:31

Tuesday, Jan 18, 2005 at 09:31
don't need to think.. buy the 4.2 TD.

The 3.0L had it's issues and apparently the new ones are fine.. not sure.. time will tell.

I personally bought a petrol. i was considering a 3.0L... the 4.2 was too expensive at the time.

but after a long time doing the figures. it works out cheaper for me to maintain a petrol patrol rather than a diesel. I thought this was very odd.

But when you consider maintenance cost, diesel parts and cost of diesel. It worked out more economical to drive a petrol.
Advantages i've found so far is i can budget for petrol, although i use a bit more - it's cheaper at the bowser and it becomes routine as a weekly bill.
Touch wood my vehicle has been reliable but petrol parts are just a little cheaper than diesel ones so i don't have to worry about the sudden bill for a broken diesel component.
And the engine is not as picky on contaminated fuel which has made it easier to travel with.

I know avg is 20Lt/100km. it depends on how you drive. I get 18lt avg and down to 15-16 on the highway. Not as bad as people make it out to be. Friends have the 4.2L and they average 15-16L per 100km.

For an extra 3Lt per 100km, i think it's worth driving a petrol.
My figures was worked on keeping the vehicle for about 7 yrs and driving about 25000km.

If i was to buy a new patrol tomorrow, i'll probably buy a new 4.2TD
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Follow Up By: Gone 4by'ing - Tuesday, Jan 18, 2005 at 09:51

Tuesday, Jan 18, 2005 at 09:51
You have forgotten about resale.

Try and find a good second hand Turbo diesel Landie or Patrol out there.

VERY HARD!

Much stronger resale on a T/D and you will sell it far quicker.
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Tuesday, Jan 18, 2005 at 17:06

Tuesday, Jan 18, 2005 at 17:06
I got a diesel for the economy and the distance it can go between fills, outback travel is on the cards and diesels the go. no question.
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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic) - Tuesday, Jan 18, 2005 at 18:35

Tuesday, Jan 18, 2005 at 18:35
A reminder of another area the guys above don't mention in regard to the petrol/diesel debate is that in the areas you and I travel around Australia that may be fire prone. The catalytic converter on petrol car exhausts are always hot after use. That is their function. It is believed a catalytic converter is what caused the fire on the Eure Peninsula last week.

Apart from a budget the responsibility we have as citizens to each other is to provide a safety factor and not endanger livelyhoods and lives where we can. It can be a strong factor in grassy or underbrush areas when it is dry.

Please play it safe.
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Reply By: Peter McGuckian (Member) - Tuesday, Jan 18, 2005 at 11:54

Tuesday, Jan 18, 2005 at 11:54
Aaron

You may get a few other happy 3.0TDi owners chipping in on this topic. I've had my GU 3.0TDi for two years now and think it's a great car. Economical and tough. Tows the camper easily Goes even better with a Dtronic fitted.

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Reply By: 80scruiser - Tuesday, Jan 18, 2005 at 12:38

Tuesday, Jan 18, 2005 at 12:38
Buy a prado or buy a lottery ticket.
If you must get a 3.0 litre at least buy a 2003 or later and opt for the extended warranty. Don't buy an ex cop or ex government one as you won't be able to get the extended warranty.
50/50 alot of happy but alot of very unhappy people with patrols. Mainly early ones up to 2002 were problems but the later ones haven't been around long enough yet. as stated early time will tell.
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Reply By: Outbacktourer - Tuesday, Jan 18, 2005 at 13:02

Tuesday, Jan 18, 2005 at 13:02
Addit,

You don't say if you prefer Auto, which for your use you probably would. If that's the case the 3.0Di is the only choice in Patrol Diesels. Stick to GUIII with the "clear lenses" as the engine got some reliability upgrades at this time. There are quite a few of us here that have them and are very happy with them. Also (as you have seen) quite a few here who do not have them who are unhappy...go figure.

FWIW, you can expect good power, 10-11L/100 on the highway. Extra service costs associated with old tech diesels do not apply to the 3.0Di.
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Reply By: DARREN - Tuesday, Jan 18, 2005 at 14:08

Tuesday, Jan 18, 2005 at 14:08
As with Peter & Outbacktourer who actually own them I have a 2003 3.0 GU, have done 45,000 thus far incl. Cape York and am very happy with it.
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Reply By: Member - Captain (WA) - Tuesday, Jan 18, 2005 at 16:37

Tuesday, Jan 18, 2005 at 16:37
Hi adlitt,

As with other OWNERS of GU 3.0TD's, I am very happy with my vehicle and reckon I made the right choice when upgrading my 80 series. I looked at the 4.2TD and while it too is a good vehicle, I felt the 3.0 drives much better - and thats BEFORE price was taken into account!

The 4.2TD definetley has the edge over the 3.0TD for very low down torque, but once above say 1,200 rpm the 3.0TD is much better IMHO. I chose the 3.0TD over the 4.2TD mainly for its better towing ability, but thats not a requirement of yours.

Your sure to get a variety of opinions of the 3.0TD, but as you can see from the response of other owners above, we are all happy.

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Reply By: kim (mr) - Tuesday, Jan 18, 2005 at 16:48

Tuesday, Jan 18, 2005 at 16:48
I have one of each due to the fact that I first got a 2000 3lt and had a lot of problems with it ie: air flow sensor, air con commpessor and diesel injection pump to name a few. They were all fixed under warranty, but when the diesel injection pump went on it I had enough and went out and got myself the 4.2.
So any way what I'm trying to say is the 4.2 is great and even know the 3 lt has had some problems it's still a great car so this is why I'm keeping both.
The only reson I went and got the 4.2 was that the 3lt was a 2000 mdl and from all the stuff you keep hearing about them blowing up, it plays on your mind.
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (WA) - Wednesday, Jan 19, 2005 at 19:43

Wednesday, Jan 19, 2005 at 19:43
2 new 4bys? I wont your job 2 wives would be cheaper!!
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