Jack- inevitable happens at Holden Dealer

Why do dealers do this it just does not make sence, good luck mate hope it all turns out for the best and when you can the turbo diesel Prado is a very good unit.

Or maybe you'll change your mind after you drive yours again.

Baz.

Hi D Jack

I had exactly same situation several months ago. My Jackaroo , a 1998 turbo diesel 3.0 had injectors done under recall . I was then advised that the wiring harness to the oil pressure switch/injectors needed replacing at my cost but no labour charge. Most generous!!

That was when I went back to a Toyota Cruiser and that is where I will stay!!!!

C'mon D-Jack,
I think you are just Dealer knocking!

You say you can hardly wait until you can afford a Prado.
Do you really think a Toyota Dealer will be any different?

For general information, I have owned my 1999 Jackaroo SE since new and ALWAYS had it serviced at the same (Holden) Dealership that I used for my previous Holden vehicles. (Yes, I am a Holden junkie, 'cause I work at the Plant)

Never had any problem with Dealer, or their work. I may be paying more than an independent Workshop may charge, but I don't know of one I can trust yet.

Anyway mate, good luck which ever way you choose.
Me, I am happy with the Jack

D-Jack,

I had a '98 3.5 Monty from new, most trouble free vehicle I have ever owned. The only problems I ever had were installed by the Authorised Holden Dealer(s).

Dealer 1: 80W90 (Commodore) diff oil used instead of 140W. Oil exited out front prop seal first time I towed the boat. Weeped even with 140 after that.

Dealer 2: (a) Checked valve clearances at 100K (no adjustment needed, surprise surprise), new cam cover gaskets, failed to tighten one side, oil all over.
(b) failed to change Tranny fluid as scheduled (no stick to check, just gotta take thier word), box overheats.

Conclusion, most dealers never see enough of them to specialise, they just treat them like a Commodore...

To be fair, the vehicle itself was not trouble free, the festoon globe in the interior light vibrated out of it's mount 20K north of Innamincka and failed to work. Fixed by owner. The only problem of it's own making in 120K of hard work.

My experience with Nissan so far has been good, the two dealers I have visited so far seem to see enough Patrols to know what they are.

If the "dealership in Adelaide" is actually in the CBD, then I'm not surprised that they butchered it. Having seen how the foreman refitted the fuel line in our Vectra a few years ago I never went back. What a useless bunch of idiots.

Geoff

D-Jack,

Can't find prevous post - please advise.

My 2001 3.0 TD had the injector seal problem but it took several visits to the local dealer and for him to contact GMH to get it sorted (never happened before they said)

Now, 5k later engine more sluggish (75k) and I wonder.

Cheers

Latest - Holden rep comes out to the dealership because there was another Jack there yesterday with exactly the same problem. Wipes their hands of it (according to Service centre). Only track to go down now is to ring Holden Direct. Funny thing was that vehicle was still under warranty at time it would have been found broken. Still can't work out how they van avoid it.

By the way, valve clearances way out (according to them). Glad I did have them checked whilst changing injector seals. 12 shims needed to be replaced (in their opinion). Service manager says will go like a rocket now. Did anyway. Probably trying to get me excited so I will not be so cranky about the other matter.

Used to have a mate who worked for a reputable well known sercice centre. Will definietly not name in fear of litigation on this one! Told me they were on a commission for parts sold, and were trained and encouraged in how to over service and replace parts that didn't really need replacing. They made nothing on their labour apparently, it was all commission. No wonder I don't trust dealerships.

Hopefully soon I will be able to post a postive post about a trip or something. Going to Beachport Feb 10 with the Jack. Hopefully it will go incident free (except for catching a 50lb Mulloway or 2) and not cost me more repair bills.

D-Jack

D- you have just put substance to my worst fears - mine is booked into X Holden for the injector recall in a week - never been to X before - will not go near my original dealer - they I know simply want to fleece me bare ! I would greatly appreciate advice on who what where etc re your dealers before I go there - eMail // darian@picknowl.com.au ......... can't see how to avoid the recall fleece-off - I know they all use the recall as an opportunity to fleece us all once again - I have avoided one dealer who suggested that the valves could all be done at the same time (sound familiar) and with the labour saving via the recall, plus a "few" things that would need replacing, I could be out of it for $1100 !!!!!!!Will have to ring Holden Customer line first I can see !
Question- seeing that the car is going very well now, should I pay anything AT ALL if there are extras arising from a recall - aren't the looms their problem if they fail at time of dismantling ?

Ah holden dealers....

I bought a brand new VT crapodore in 99 from Reg Hunt Holden ( now Summit Holden???). It had a vibration from new when I towed my boat above 90kph. Never had a prob in my VH Crapodore or my 88 Skyline though!
The short story.....after 9mths and about more than 12 visits they blamed my driving (shouldn't tow at 110kph) to the slop in the tow hitch. They had some holden engineer out to drive it and said there was no problem!!!!!!!
I went to Watson Holden for a service and a small warranty itme and they noticed some oil weeping out of the timing cover seal where the harmonic balancer was. Well guess what? when they removed the harmonic balancer they found the bolt that held it on was loose. They checked the deal and bolted it back on. They had no idea of the 9 months of problems I had and how they just fixed a huge problem I was having. I raced home and hooked my boat up and went for the best drive of my life.......

Leroy

They say sh*t happens but how about this? D-Jack answered my earlier q. regarding sluggish 2002 3.0 TD (thanks). It had injector seals replaced last month, shims OK at 70k.

Last Sunday, towing a car trailer, she starts to lose power under load in all gears and the motor is running rough as if not all injectors are working. Decide to nurse it home, then notice clouds of white smoke from exhaust with more loss of power.

Shut her down, NRMA tow trucks it to dealer, who can't look at it for a week.

Will report further.

Starting to lose a bit of faith too.

We have been having our F250 serviced at our Local Noosa Ford dealer and all I can say about them is they are fantastic. Do a great job and at a reasonable price and any minor items the service manager has come out and tried to fix it there and then. Even noticed a fault with the rear door rubbing on the roof and booked it in for a warranty panel repair.

Our other car is a new Magna and when we picked it up the horn didn't work. Even after paying all that money for dealer delivery. Tried to get it fixed at the Noosa Mitsubishi dealer only to be told bring it back next week. By the time it went in for first service the horn was working again, so they obviously didn't do anything. This week the horn is not working again so called in on Monday and asked if someone could check the steering wheel centre push switch that appears to have a loose wire. Again told to book it in and first available day is next Monday. And these new car dealers have the check to call it SERVICE. I don't think a lot of them know the meaning of the word.